03:46:05 <Infinity8> Has anyone successfully run a Bitcoin and Monero node on a Raspberry Pi?
04:26:38 <Infinity8> Well just found out why Monero runs so slow on my computer
04:26:46 <Infinity8> My CPU doesn't even support AES
04:48:23 <d4ndo[m]> What CPU are you running?
04:50:10 <d4ndo[m]> AMD opteron?
04:51:00 <d4ndo[m]> The Opteron series are pretty good cpu's even though they are 10 years old.
04:51:16 <d4ndo[m]> But no AES support
04:52:47 <Infinity8> d4ndo[m]: Q9550
04:53:49 <d4ndo[m]> Yeah. 45nm. From 2008
04:54:02 <d4ndo[m]> Old cpu.
04:55:54 <Infinity8> Thinking about getting a Rock64 or RockPro64
04:55:58 <Infinity8> Not sure which one to get
04:56:30 <Infinity8> comments, suggestions?
04:56:45 <Infinity8> Running a Bitcoin and monero node with a pi-hole as well
04:57:41 <d4ndo[m]> Do you use the Rock64 for day to day work?
04:58:17 <Infinity8> nah, it's a dedicated node
04:58:27 <Infinity8> planning on doing NAS as well
04:58:30 <d4ndo[m]> ok
04:58:33 <Infinity8> but i'm not sure if the RAM will hold up
04:58:55 <Infinity8> might just buy another one once I'm finished with the nodes + pi-hole project
04:59:02 <Infinity8> just for a dedicated NAS
04:59:49 <d4ndo[m]> A bitcoin and Monero node on the same device could be a problem.
04:59:55 <d4ndo[m]> ram wise
05:01:56 <d4ndo[m]> Can you boot from SSD ?
05:04:00 <d4ndo[m]> I would also trun off swaping on  SSD.
05:04:36 <d4ndo[m]> Shortens the life span of the SSD.
05:06:06 <Infinity8> d4ndo[m]: I'm on a hard drive atm
05:06:17 <Infinity8> It's only taking about 2-2.5GB of RAM that's with the pi-hole
05:06:30 <Infinity8> so 4GB should be sufficient as that's what I have in my node atm
05:06:44 <Infinity8> It's just drinking a juicy 90W from the wall is my issue
05:10:08 <d4ndo[m]> That is a lot.
05:11:29 <d4ndo[m]> It is recommended to run a Monero node on an SSD. I couldn't even explain you why.
05:12:06 <d4ndo[m]> But it runs much slower on a hard drive for reasons.
05:14:10 <d4ndo[m]> You have that on USB3 port on the Rock64, could be usefull for an SSD.
05:14:39 <d4ndo[m]> +e
05:15:11 <d4ndo[m]> s/on/one/
05:18:04 <d4ndo[m]> You could boot from eMMC and mount the home dircetory on the SSD.
05:19:07 <d4ndo[m]> Then use the USB2 ports for hard drves (NAS)
05:23:05 <Infinity8> d4ndo[m]: Still trying to decide what size SSD to get
05:23:22 <Infinity8> Or to just put my Bitcoin node on a HDD and XMR node on SSD
05:23:46 <Infinity8> in which a 250GB should be sufficient if I were to split it
05:27:32 <d4ndo[m]> I think the monero blockchain size is about 80 to 90GB at the moment.
05:32:32 <Infinity8> d4ndo[m]: It is
05:37:10 <frogar> anyone here got testnet litecoin?
05:37:25 <frogar> can't find any working faucet
05:45:05 <d4ndo[m]> Infinity8: If you only use Linux, macOS orBSD - i recommend  https://www.borgbackup.org/ for Backups on your NAS. All you need is ssh and borg.
05:47:47 <d4ndo[m]> https://borgbackup.readthedocs.io/en/stable/quickstart.html
05:47:56 <d4ndo[m]> ^- Quickstart
05:56:49 <Infinity8> frogar: Just mine it
05:57:09 <Infinity8> d4ndo[m]: So you think Rock64 or RockPro64 would be good in my case?
06:03:47 <d4ndo[m]> I would use the rock64 as Backup or NAS and rent a vps for a monero node. You need to keep in mind the monero node also shares the blockchain on your upload.
06:04:38 <d4ndo[m]> A vps also has access from everywhere.
06:07:00 <d4ndo[m]> You could also run a tor node on that vps or other traffic intensiv stuff.
06:08:04 <d4ndo[m]> sorry for my bad enlish.
06:08:22 <d4ndo[m]> +g
06:17:35 <Infinity8> d4ndo[m]: Ah, I'm going to be running a NAS on a separate network in that case.
06:25:24 <Infinity8> ok brb.
06:29:43 <Infinity8> ok i'm back
06:29:58 <d4ndo[m]> I don't know your network setup. The bottom line is you need to know best what works on your network. But my guess is  that the rock64 might be a bit overstrained with the Monero and Bitcoin node.
06:30:22 <Infinity8> Strained in terms of CPU or RAM?
06:30:23 <Infinity8> or both
06:30:41 <d4ndo[m]> Probably RAM
06:32:06 <d4ndo[m]> Anyone in the chat running a node on arm ?
07:13:05 <d4ndo[m]> On reddit someone just posted how to setup a monero node on a Raspberry Pi.
07:13:11 <d4ndo[m]> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/glk867/ende_moneropi_running_a_full_node_on_a_raspberry/
07:13:36 <d4ndo[m]> https://gitlab.com/TalusUnheil/moneropi
07:14:56 <d4ndo[m]> The markdown version here: https://gitlab.com/TalusUnheil/moneropi/-/blob/master/Markdown_EN.md
07:17:21 <d4ndo[m]> He uses a Raspberry Pi 3.
07:42:08 <d4ndo[m]> Other topic : To bad those guys do not use html tables to display the data : https://moneroblocks.info/stats
07:44:30 <d4ndo[m]> html tables are great for parsing data - using Gnu R to do some plots.
07:46:11 <d4ndo[m]> OK- but they do provide an API via JSON. My fault.
07:46:58 <d4ndo[m]> sorry
08:14:53 <d4ndo[m]> What do you guys think of FossaSat-1 ? FossaSat is a pocketqube satellite which is being developed using free and open source ethics. You can communicate via a cheap Lora device 20$. Send some monero via LoRa satellite!?
08:15:04 <d4ndo[m]> https://fossa.systems/fossasat-1/
08:50:16 <d4ndo[m]> Some more info https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n911zTNIn8E
08:52:15 <charolastra> for the TX to find its way onto the blockchain it would need an internet gateway, right?
08:53:00 <d4ndo[m]> yes.
08:54:03 <Infinity8> d4ndo[m], That guide is why I'm here
08:54:15 <Infinity8> apparently raspberry pi isn't recommended to run monero node because it doesn't support hardware AES
09:00:11 <ErCiccione[m]> monerobox run on rock64: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/monerobox
09:01:02 <ErCiccione[m]> but there is also pinode-xmr that can work on different boards: https://github.com/monero-ecosystem/PiNode-XMR
10:08:30 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Leo Cornelius [AIO]#9160>: hey
10:08:45 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] BB-8#4208>: Hi
15:13:18 <a8_> if my internet drops when im downloading blockchain is there risk of corruption?
15:13:45 <a8_> because it dropped like 9 times and i dont wanna redownload :/
15:14:14 <selsta> sync using monerod or download blockchain from getmonero.org?
15:14:20 <selsta> I would recommend to sync using monerod
15:16:06 <a8_> i am useing monerod
15:16:33 <a8_> is there chance of corruption?
15:16:36 <selsta> no
15:16:44 <selsta> unless you have a power loss
15:16:48 <charolastra> then it should be valid. in any case, TCP guarentees correctness of transmission
15:18:03 <a8_> ok, im useing a vpn(for unrelated resions ) so when my internet drops the vpn killswich turns on and it like timesout all connections. could that cause issues?
15:18:22 <selsta> no
15:18:27 <a8_> ok thanks a ton
15:58:57 <kiwi_20> Hi folks has anyone done monero mining here on an Android phone?
15:59:22 <charolastra> lol, why would you do that
16:00:01 <TrasherDK> charolata: You just made my day "TCP guarentees correctness of transmission"
16:00:43 <kiwi_20> charolastra Because it's idle and has 8 cores. I'm upgrading to a new phone soon.
16:01:09 <kiwi_20> Also I'm curious what the hash rate would be. Probably very low I know.
16:01:44 <TrasherDK> Try it out, and let us know..
16:01:44 <charolastra> i guess you'll mine 1 cent per day and ruin the hardware at the same time
16:01:57 <charolastra> TrasherDK: but it's true, isn't it?
16:02:18 <yanmaani> it might be a bit better than that
16:02:24 <yanmaani> but not worth the time
16:02:54 <hyc> yeah, i've been mining on phones for a couple years
16:03:20 <hyc> they're actually on par with ~2-3 year older laptop
16:03:59 <charolastra> how much are you making per day per device?
16:04:10 <hyc> dunno.
16:04:12 <hyc> 0
16:04:17 <yanmaani> why do it then?
16:04:39 <yanmaani> renting a dedi you can at least recoup ~50% of the monthly rental, which is not terrible
16:04:48 <hyc> to see how much can be done. their efficiency is higher than intel cpus
16:05:01 <yanmaani> I mean you can install monero, nice it to hell, and then use your server as normal
16:05:14 <yanmaani> they're more efficient, but they don't earn you any money??
16:05:20 <TrasherDK> hyc's phones are probably more beaffy than my laptops :D
16:05:30 <hyc> they only run on like 5W or less
16:06:01 <hyc> solo mining, haven't hit any block yet
16:07:00 <yanmaani> what'd you get if you did it in pool you think?
16:07:11 <yanmaani> what if you'd buy one of those 1U ARM thingies?
16:07:33 <charolastra> aren't we at GPU mining?
16:07:56 <TrasherDK> Or one of those 1U EPYC thingies ?
16:09:17 <hyc> I'm not really impressed with the ARm server hardware yet
16:09:30 <hyc> AMD is still king for now
16:09:51 <yanmaani> If you want cheap dedis it seems like a good niche
16:12:56 <TrasherDK> I've got a box full of old routers/access-point that would do fine as node/nas servers.
16:54:16 <d4ndo[m]> What kind of router are we talking here?
16:57:13 <d4ndo[m]> Better use those router to setup a freifunk mesh node. Or any other mesh network in your area.
16:58:13 <hyc> I have a couple old routers here but now I've forgotten which I've bricked
16:58:25 <hyc> (botched openwrt installs)
17:00:25 <d4ndo[m]> if the led's wont blink - it is bricked.
17:27:48 <a8_> lol im downloading the blockchain to my harddrive, it will be so fragmented lol
18:45:06 <asymptotically> is there anything i can modify to make a ledger work with latest master wallet?
18:46:16 <asymptotically> never mind, i just cherrypicked the boost fixes PR onto an older release :D
20:25:30 <xmrpow> @moneromoo incoming connections rising ;)))
20:26:35 <moneromooo> Congrats :)
20:26:40 <xmrpow> Thanks moo and hyc. Im curious if im having the latency problem now.
20:26:45 <xmrpow> going to check it again.
20:26:54 <hyc> you're going to have a lot more peer connections
20:27:00 <hyc> so I'd guess the problem goes away
20:27:06 <xmrpow> im sure thats going to solve the problem
20:27:14 <xmrpow> but lets wait for the result
20:27:16 <xmrpow> ;9
20:27:18 <xmrpow> ;)
20:35:36 <xmrpow> Delay problem solved. Delay is now in the ms range ;)
20:38:38 <moneromooo> If you have an account for monero.stackexchange.com, feel free to add a Q&A about it.
20:40:13 <xmrpow> About the p2p bind ip thing?
20:44:19 <moneromooo> Yes. "I'm seeing slow block propagation" - "check you have enough peers, in and out"
20:44:46 <moneromooo> With examples of why in peers could be absent, like the bind interface, router being not setup to pass them in, etc
20:45:02 <moneromooo> Might be a question about it already actually.
20:52:31 <xmrpow> ok
21:04:04 <a8_> hey guys, monerod failes with this. what can be the cause?
21:04:08 <a8_> 2020-05-18 21:02:46.178    F Error starting server: Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required)
21:04:29 <moneromooo> Are you running anything on that port ? Maybe another monerod ?
21:04:38 <a8_> nope
21:04:42 <moneromooo> Are you sure ?
21:04:47 <a8_> yes i just booted pc
21:04:51 <a8_> it doesnt start on boot
21:04:54 <Inge-> windows or linux?
21:04:57 <a8_> macOS
21:05:04 <moneromooo> Do you have some software that prevents binding to interfaces ?
21:05:11 <a8_> i do not
21:05:18 <a8_> i havent had issues with binding before
21:05:20 <moneromooo> Do you know how to use dtruss ?
21:05:25 <moneromooo> (I think that's the name)
21:05:29 <a8_> not really but i can look it up?
21:05:44 <a8_> ./monerod --data-dir /Volumes/Untitled/XMR/node --rpc-bind-ip 0.0.0.0 --rpc-bind-port 18089 --restricted-rpc --confirm-external-bind --public-node
21:05:47 <moneromooo> Then run monerod with dtruss, you should get a list of syscalls. Paste that to some paste site.
21:05:47 <a8_> this is my command btw
21:05:57 <a8_> ok
21:06:03 <Inge-> netstat -anp | grep 18089 ?
21:06:35 <a8_> doesnt accept -anp
21:07:46 <Inge-> right that was linux. See if you can use it to check for anything on that port, and if so, you might be able to get the program binding to it
21:07:55 <Inge-> but not sure about how it works on Mac
21:08:12 <a8_> let me try to bind to that port with another app
21:09:25 <a8_> binds fine
21:10:06 <a8_> odd
21:14:48 <a8_> let me try dtruss
21:19:44 <a8_> recording dtruss rn
21:23:02 <a8_> https://paste.gg/p/anonymous/f3ac2fdfe9e447bfaa31ce53d288e74a
21:23:14 <a8_> here u go moneromooo
21:24:19 <selsta> a8_: do you have the gui open?
21:24:50 <a8_> uh yes
21:24:56 <a8_> but deamon is closed
21:25:12 <a8_> i orig used term cuz gui said it failed to start monerod
21:25:18 <a8_> im trying to make. my node public
21:27:37 <selsta> did the gui daemon always fail to start? or just recently?
21:29:20 <a8_> when i tried useing the ``--rpc-bind-ip 0.0.0.0 --rpc-bind-port 18089 --restricted-rpc --confirm-external-bind --public-node`` in the startup flags option
21:29:29 <a8_> i left it blank before
21:31:25 <selsta> okay, can you try restarting and then only starting from terminal?
21:31:35 <selsta> without opening the GUI
21:31:37 <a8_> ok
21:31:39 <a8_> brb
21:44:00 <a8_> :( i messed up my blockchain file when rebooting
21:44:09 <a8_> i need to redownload now
21:47:47 <a8_> ok after clearing the folder it seems to have fixed itsself
21:48:48 <moneromooo> bind fails with error 48. Not sure if hex or decimal. What's 48 on mac ? grep 48 `find /usr/include \*errno\*h`
21:49:19 <a8_> reboot fixed bind :)
21:49:33 <a8_> i think there was one running in backround or something cuz now my blockchain is corrupt
21:50:11 <a8_> also is this normal? 2020-05-18 21:47:27.388	W --public-node is enabled, but RPC server 10.0.0.123:18089 may be unreachable from outside, please check RPC server bind address
21:50:35 <moneromooo> Does not seem abnormal at laest.
21:50:54 <moneromooo> Do you intend to give RPC service to someone from the internet ?
21:51:06 <a8_> uh no, i just want to make a public node to help the network
21:51:22 <moneromooo> That sound like "no, but yes" :)
21:51:31 <a8_> oh ok :D
21:51:46 <moneromooo> monerod supplies P2P (normal peer to peer comms) and RPC (usually private).
21:51:59 <a8_> i think the error is cuz i cant connect to other local ip's, my router is messed up a bit
21:52:09 <a8_> ah ok
21:52:13 <moneromooo> You want P2P to be publicly accessible. You usually want RPC not to be. --public-node is for RPC.
21:52:36 <a8_> so my startup flags are fine?
21:52:50 <moneromooo> They're fine if you intend to serve public RPC access.
21:53:36 <a8_> ok
21:53:53 <a8_> :) happy to help the network
22:02:15 <a8_> wait so does the warning mean that no one can use my node publicly?
22:02:48 <moneromooo> "may" implies a probability between 0 and 1, exclusive.
22:03:13 <Inge-> technically correct and completely useless :P
22:03:14 <moneromooo> Try it. There are various websites where you can ask to connect to your mode to see if it's reachable.
22:03:35 <moneromooo> Well, it's a prompt for "re-read and you'll get it" I guess :)
22:12:00 <a8_> oh yea i forwarded 18089 not 18081
22:12:03 <a8_> is that not correct?
22:12:12 <a8_> nvm
22:12:14 <moneromooo> It is correct.
22:12:38 <a8_> should i open anything other then 18089 too?
22:12:42 <a8_> or is that all i need
22:12:46 <moneromooo> 18080 for P2P.
22:12:53 <a8_> ok
22:13:07 <a8_> i will just open 18080 - 18089 cuz thats easer on my router then just 2 of them
22:13:28 <moneromooo> That includes 18082, which has a zmq server. You might not want to open that one.
22:13:41 <a8_> qhmm
22:13:51 <a8_> i dont use zmq tho, never heard of it
22:14:13 <moneromooo> It's a RPC server with different protocol, used by essentially close to noone but mymonero I think.
22:15:04 <a8_> ok i opened 18080-18089 :)
22:15:07 <a8_> i will restart my node app
22:15:08 <moneromooo> Or you can use --no-zmq, and forward the range.
22:15:48 <a8_> ok
22:16:33 <a8_> do i type stop_daemon to stop the monerod? in the console
22:16:47 <moneromooo> Maybe. exit or ^D work.
22:17:02 <a8_> edit worked
22:17:05 <a8_> exit*
22:19:59 <a8_> 2020-05-18 22:19:22.452	W The RPC server is accessible from the outside, but no RPC payment was setup. RPC access will be free for all.
22:20:00 <a8_> yaaay
22:39:15 <takel> hi
22:40:01 <camthegeek> hi
23:25:26 <a8_> how can i set my out_peers to unlimited on monerod?
23:25:34 <a8_> or is that stupid to do
23:26:02 <moneromooo> out_peers bignumberhere
23:26:21 <a8_> yes but then it would just be "bignumber
23:26:28 <a8_> when i do in_peers it says unlimited tho
23:26:53 <moneromooo> Oh, yes, -1 is unlimited I think.
23:27:12 <moneromooo> I'm not sure it's stupid. I would tend to say no.
23:27:22 <a8_> ok
23:27:32 <moneromooo> It'll just continuously scan for more peers, and mostly fail to find more.
23:27:32 <a8_> out_peers -1
23:27:32 <a8_> Max number of out peers set to unlimited
23:27:39 <a8_> hmm
23:27:50 <a8_> ok i will make it 26
23:27:58 <moneromooo> Just ensure you don't restrict fds too much I guess.
23:28:06 <a8_> fds?
23:28:11 <moneromooo> file descriptors.
23:28:26 <a8_> what do you mean? sorry im a monero newb
23:28:54 <moneromooo> File descriptors are, hmm... entries in a table mapping to open files/devices.
23:29:07 <moneromooo> "opened files/device at once".
23:29:10 <a8_> oh yea
23:29:18 <moneromooo> ulimit might work on mac, it should show the current limit.
23:29:22 <a8_> macOS has that stupidly low by default
23:29:27 <a8_> it caused crashes for me before
23:29:34 <a8_> nikita@MacBook-Air /A/m/C/MacOS> ulimit
23:29:34 <a8_> unlimited
23:29:40 <a8_> i think i made it unlimited at one point :)
23:29:45 <moneromooo> try ulimit -a
23:30:03 <a8_> nikita@MacBook-Air /A/m/C/MacOS> ulimit -a
23:30:03 <a8_> Maximum size of core files created                           (kB, -c) 0
23:30:04 <a8_> Maximum size of a process’s data segment                     (kB, -d) unlimited
23:30:04 <a8_> Maximum size of files created by the shell                   (kB, -f) unlimited
23:30:06 <a8_> Maximum size that may be locked into memory                  (kB, -l) unlimited
23:30:06 <a8_> Maximum resident set size                                    (kB, -m) unlimited
23:30:08 <a8_> Maximum number of open file descriptors                          (-n) 10240
23:30:08 <a8_> Maximum stack size                                           (kB, -s) 8192
23:30:10 <a8_> Maximum amount of cpu time in seconds                   (seconds, -t) unlimited
23:30:10 <a8_> Maximum number of processes available to a single user           (-u) 1392
23:30:11 <moneromooo> Just fds -_-
23:30:12 <a8_> Maximum amount of virtual memory available to the shell      (kB, -v) unlimited
23:30:12 <a8_> nikita@MacBook-Air /A/m/C/MacOS>
23:30:14 <a8_> i think its fine
23:30:18 <a8_> oh sorry
23:30:22 <a8_> 10240
23:30:32 <moneromooo> Should be fine then.
23:30:39 <a8_> :)