03:14:29 <DeanWeen> are there timelocks in monero?
03:18:24 <gingeropolous> DeanWeen, there's a type of time lock, but not the one that people want
03:18:53 <gingeropolous> basically, when you create a new output, you can give it a lock regarding the block height when it can be spent (used as an input)
03:21:48 <DeanWeen> that's all that's required for these succinct atomic swaps right?
03:22:44 <gingeropolous> i dunno. from what i understand, the key to most contract magic is a lock that prevents a transaction from being mined into the chain
03:23:57 <DeanWeen> https://old.reddit.com/r/BitcoinDiscussion/comments/gi6led/sas_succinct_atomic_swaps_half_the_number_of/
03:27:19 <gingeropolous> woof. im too tired for all those words. perhaps sleep is in order
03:27:42 <gingeropolous> or i just continue drooling over epyc 7702
05:24:58 <Steven_M> Would anyone like to buy my 0.392913147407 for 0.00678453 BTC?
05:25:36 <Steven_M> Would anyone like to buy my 0.392913147407 XMR for 0.00678453 BTC?
05:53:07 <Steven_M> ignore that, I calculated it wrong
05:53:13 <Steven_M> sorry
06:28:07 <hv-bridge> <D​onkeybrrrrrr> who eats the btc fee?
08:59:15 <ErCiccione[m]> Made one more call for translators: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/gkrk0x/hundreds_of_new_translations_submitted_on_weblate/
08:59:19 <ErCiccione[m]> We need reviewers. Please help if you can. Instructions in the reddit post
09:21:09 <Piraty> how big is the chain nowadays? (in GB)?
09:22:02 <asymptotically> ~80G for the unpruned chain i think
09:25:47 <Piraty> pah
09:25:59 <Piraty> that won't fit on my vps
09:27:28 <d4ndo[m]> +SSD strongly recommended. So it is hard to run a monero node on one of those 1.99$ vps
09:30:06 <asymptotically> there's pruning too but i don't remember how much you end up with after that :(
09:30:41 <sech1> about 1/3
09:38:50 <rbrunner> Just checked: It's already almost 90 GB already. There are a lot of transactions now, a few days ago we had a new all-time high
09:43:44 <d4ndo[m]> Does it make sense to offer a public node and host it in a developing country? I don't see to much nodes in India, even though india is strong in IT.!?
09:44:02 <d4ndo[m]> https://monerohash.com/nodes-distribution.html
09:45:32 <d4ndo[m]> There  is a single node in  Johannesburg hosted by fluffypony.
09:46:40 <d4ndo[m]> *off for lunch
09:47:21 <Piraty> if you're willing to pay me i can host some ;)
09:56:37 <ErCiccione[m]> It makes sense to have as many nodes as possible distributed in as many countries as possible
09:57:01 <ErCiccione[m]> a pruned node can be easily run on a vps for like $6 a month
10:08:01 <Infinity8> Anyone running a node?
10:11:07 <Infinity8> Wondering what the power draw is of using node and what CPU you're using
10:11:07 <azy> only two in iceland
10:11:10 <azy> that should be easy to improve
10:11:46 <zib> Infinity8: no problem running in a raspberry pi so powerdraw is what..10W max maybe.
10:13:19 <Infinity8> Anyone else?
10:13:37 <Infinity8> I want to run a bitcoin, monero, and pi-hole on a machine
10:13:47 <Infinity8> and hopefully a NAS as well
10:13:56 <Infinity8> so i'm guessing a raspberry pi won't cut it?
10:15:10 <zib> i think you'll have ram troubles. A pi4 with 4GB should work.
10:20:52 <asymptotically> you might have IO problems with a bitcoin and monero node going over to the same slow storage
10:21:24 <azy> https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/gkqe1n/hackers_demand_crypto_ransom_for_secrets_about/
10:21:26 <azy> well thats exciting
10:21:57 <azy> the amount seems way too high
10:24:12 <Infinity8> yeah it is
10:24:26 <Infinity8> you need to pay off a terrorist in south america 100K to stop them from killing you
10:24:32 <Infinity8> $42 million i just overkill
10:24:49 <azy> 1 million seems like a lot
10:25:34 <zib> cant even buy a jetplane with 1 million man
10:25:43 <zib> these hackers need jetz
11:07:54 <yanmaani> here's an interesting showerthought I had the other day
11:08:05 <yanmaani> what if bitcoin's 1MB cap was put in to ensure the progression of the ecosystem?
11:08:21 <yanmaani> think of it logically - if it were a stopgap measure, it'd have a sunset data
11:08:23 <yanmaani> date*
11:08:45 <yanmaani> SN said, basically, that the success was bimodal - either it grew explosively and got a big price, or it didn't
11:09:23 <yanmaani> By putting in a 1MB cap, there was pressure to re-evaluate the design whenever it reached that point. And boy did it get re-evaluated
11:16:30 <asymptotically> maybe it incentivises better solutions. like segwit or signature aggregation instead of just increasing the blocksize
11:17:43 <yanmaani> Well, Nakamoto favored just increasing it
11:17:54 <yanmaani> But yeah, that too.
11:18:36 <asymptotically> i think it sucks that people worship him and everything he says too. he left and doesn't matter anymore
11:19:10 <yanmaani> Well, he was a sharp guy, and he wasn't in it to scam people. That's rare for people in the "crypto space," as they call it
11:21:17 <gingeropolous> yeah, i guess they could have coded it to a blockheight for sunset
11:21:19 <gingeropolous> easy enough to do
12:10:33 <fluffypony> d4ndo[m]: lol - that's not even mine :)
12:11:30 <d4ndo[m]>  fluffypony I'd say the same thing now if I were you. XD
12:18:00 <d4ndo[m]> Lets host a node in north korea - guys.
12:26:19 <d4ndo[m]> That one place where the USA has no influence.
12:27:17 <d4ndo[m]> I wonder if that one 56k modem can handle it.
12:32:16 <hyc> that one place where nobody else could ever connect to it?
12:32:17 <d4ndo[m]> https://news.webhosting.info/north-korea-to-launch-cloud-computing-service/
12:35:20 <asymptotically> first Aldi and now North Korea?
12:38:54 <d4ndo[m]> A pretty good buisness model for north korea.if you ask me. All the data that needs to be safe from western surveillence states.
12:38:54 <Quotes> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbC6dLG_dQY
12:49:43 <d4ndo[m]> bulletproof-hoster.
12:51:09 <rbrunner> With an internet connection of 1 KB / sec. And 100 IP numbers available, for 100 customers only.
12:52:19 <d4ndo[m]> Soul is pretty near by. Some directional antennas could do the work.
12:53:54 <d4ndo[m]> Should be impossible to jam every signal.
12:58:17 <d4ndo[m]> Get a view of those https://www.ui.com/airfiber/airfiber24-hd/
16:03:25 <neoflux[m]> I wanna re-post this Empirical Analysis of IPFS Linkability in the Monero Blockchain for anyone to read. Would like to know what could be built on it. Like what if the SEC is going to start taking down Moneros websites when they  can't fine the core dev team for violating their rules? http://bafybeidz4p265oyhfjv5uugxp42fli6qttzqf5ib3aawljr6lbgsif3nsi.ipfs.localhost:8080/
16:21:24 <d4ndo[m]> The onion website could still be up.
16:22:11 <d4ndo[m]> Spreading the torrent from there.
16:38:04 <neoflux[m]> This DAPS coin project comparison chart claims that Monero has "well poisoning". What's that? https://officialdapscoin.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/DAPS-Privacy-coin-chart-2020.jpg
16:45:29 <sech1> This DAPS coin claims that everything else but their shilled coin has "well poisoning"
16:45:51 <sech1> it also claims that Monero has halving
16:47:54 <neoflux[m]> Yes, but what is "well poisoning"?
16:49:28 <sech1> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well maybe?
16:57:53 <neoflux[m]> Yes but what does it mean in the context of cryptocurrency?
17:01:11 <selsta> what a trash chart
17:11:02 <neoflux[m]> Yeah DAPS is obviously not decentralized, but what does well poisoning mean in this context?
17:13:13 <selsta> I would guess this https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-030-00305-0_11
17:32:52 <neoflux[m]> Ok. It says it slows down the overall production of the mining pool. So there's no permanent damage?
17:39:47 <selsta> I don’t know, I have not read the paper.
17:48:24 <sech1> nowadays pool ban individual workers, on "black sheep" can't bring down a big miner
17:48:34 <sech1> *one "black sheep"
18:13:01 <neoflux[m]> Yeah so it doesn't have well poisoning just because it's not a mineable coin, which makes them also not decentralized.
18:14:40 <neoflux[m]> They can fabricate these charts so that they look favorable for them with most green check marks. Then people who don't know shit, think they are better.
18:42:00 <rbrunner> Fascinating. I googled that "well poisoning". Found nothing but just DAPS coin people claiming "well poisining attack resistance" and that's it. All people just seem to copy that, end of story.
21:25:33 <fRit_^> hello, I'm going to start mining on separate machine (AMD R7 or R9, no GPU). What's the difference when it comes to mining between official wallet and for instance XMrig?
21:27:45 <niocbrrrrrr> xmrig will be a higher hr but I don't know what the difference is
21:28:10 <niocbrrrrrr> solo or pool mining
21:28:49 <fRit_^> niocbrrrrrr, I think in the beginning 'solo'
21:29:17 <niocbrrrrrr> let's see if this command works here
21:29:22 <niocbrrrrrr> .mine 10000
21:29:29 <niocbrrrrrr> nope
21:29:39 <niocbrrrrrr> there is also #monero-pools
21:29:42 <niocbrrrrrr> you will either get help or get trolled or both :)
21:29:56 <fRit_^> niocbrrrrrr, :)
21:31:07 <niocbrrrrrr> fRit_^: I just but in the .solo command there and for a 15k HR for a well set up 3900x you will get a block every 115 days on average
21:31:29 <fRit_^> I've tried to find advantages regarding using other app than official.
21:32:58 <niocbrrrrrr> xmrig should be a significantly higher hash rate as it's been optimized
21:33:13 <niocbrrrrrr> believe you can run it solo but I have not
21:34:09 <niocbrrrrrr> the 15k HR yields 0.0146 xmr a day
21:34:32 <niocbrrrrrr> and the block reward slowly decreases
21:34:41 <fRit_^> weird, official client is less efficient?;)
21:36:47 <hyc> monerod is less efficient because it has bunches of other threads running to handle p2p comms etc
21:37:15 <niocbrrrrrr> as of now yes, again xmrig has been optimized since it first came out, probably by around 20% increase in HR
21:37:38 <fRit_^> niocbrrrrrr, ok, thanks
21:38:53 <fRit_^> niocbrrrrrr, tack :)
21:39:17 <niocbrrrrrr> yw
21:42:46 <fRit_^> niocbrrrrrr, btw what do you think about my planned setu i.e. R7  or R9 w/o GPU
21:42:47 <fRit_^> ?
21:46:15 <niocbrrrrrr> if you are buying it just to mine it will be difficult to get your money back,  If you have other use for it then mining with it when you can is good
21:46:44 <niocbrrrrrr> I know you can run it without a GPU but I don't know how
21:51:47 <fRit_^> niocbrrrrrr, ssh?
21:53:00 <niocbrrrrrr> I am probably the least technical person here :)
21:53:08 <niocbrrrrrr> and yet I can mine \o/
21:54:09 <fRit_^> ok, thanks for advise, bye