04:10:50 Hi all, I get a different key id when I import binaryFate's gpg key than the one shown on the instructions, even though the fingerprints match. I get: key 2A0BDF92: public key "binaryFate " imported. The website shows: key F0AF4D462A0BDF92: public key "binaryFate...etc 04:13:22 any idea why I get a different ID? 04:19:31 Steven_M on which website does it show F0AF4D462A0BDF92 ? 04:20:31 Steven_M: anyway, looks like the key you are seeing is cut 04:20:38 gpg --fingerprint binaryfate⊙go 04:20:45 should return `81AC 591F E9C4 B65C 5806 AFC3 F0AF 4D46 2A0B DF92` 04:21:46 selsta: https://web.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/verification-allos-advanced.html#23-import-signing-key 04:22:40 see all keys end in `DF92`, they are just not the full key 04:23:35 2A0BDF92 are the last 4 byte of F0AF4D462A0BDF92 04:25:36 The short notation. 04:28:49 selsta: d4ndo[m]: Oh I see 04:30:45 selsta: the fingerprint matched what you gave me, so I should be fine right? 04:34:10 Steven_M: yes 04:35:16 selsta: Thanks :-) 04:36:55 d4ndo[m]: Thanks to you as well. :-) 04:37:11 np 06:12:57 Windows built-in virus checker thinks it has found Trojans in many of the Monero exe's. The checksum of the download matched the hash file though. Has this happened to anyone else before? 06:17:12 Yes, Windows classifies the included miners as malware. 06:25:10 selsta: okay, thanks. :-) 06:31:50 Another - Unmasking Satoshi Nakomoto Video has been uploaded on Youtube. 06:32:12 »Bitcoin - Unmasking Satoshi Nakamoto« 07:48:15 Hi there. I just published a Figma file with a work-in-progress design concept for a mobile wallet. Something I've been messing with for some time, but just cleaned up because xmrscott had asked about mobile wire frames. Not sure if there is an effort on the mobile front right now, but maybe this is helpful. https://www.figma.com/community/file/843029540257083746/Monero-mobile-wallet-concept 07:49:43 knueffelbund[m]: awesome, thank you 07:52:23 Np. I'm happy about any feedback and ideas. 07:52:40 knueffelbund: About to reply to you email as well, but you might also want to ask in monero-gui about any mobile interests :) 07:53:13 I can only speak for myself, not for the people who are the regular gui contributors 07:54:13 Will do. If I remember correctly, rehrar also looked into mobile wallets a few months ago. Haven't asked him recently about it though. 07:54:22 I wonder how well Qt apps work on mobile and if it wouldn’t be better to write it native in Swift. Probably would be better but contributors are missing. 07:55:36 Yes, was mentioning that in my email, but can mention here 07:56:13 (only talking about iOS version) 07:56:19 Basically the last mobile-anything effort I'm aware of (granted I don't lurk a whole lot in monero-gui apart from close to releases for localization/string lock stuff) is indeed rehrars wireframes circa Konferenco last year 07:57:21 That was slightly preceded in Mar/April of 2019 w/ me pushing someone (ended up being rehrar) to talk to Purism about what was happening with their LibremPay wallet 07:58:15 rehrar talked to Todd Weaver, Todd Weaver said it's very much still going to be a thing, but I think mainly Purism's focus based on their blogposts has been trying to get Librem 5 out, not so much the extraneous software 07:59:52 One of the Purism software devs followed up with me fall-ish of last year about it because someone had asked about it on the Purism forums, and I said TMK it was still WIP, but no one from Monero was actively working on it. They said they'd follow up w/ rehrar or some other person I think like dsc on IRC. TMK, never did 08:01:20 I'll have to refind the post, but anywho long story short. Last work on mobile-anything I believe was rehrar's wireframes. I started asking around this week because now that the PinePhone is shipping out late May, it would be nice to have a 'first movers advantage' in the Linux mobile space 08:03:22 My C++ foo hasn't been touched in over 6 years, but I figured since I'm currently learning QML and (re)learning Python for my first Linux mobile project, a HackerTracker Linux mobile port, I'd try to do the QML for a Monero mobile wallet as well. So I asked around, and dsc and selsta suggested contacting you and rehrar as you both had the most recent design work 08:04:54 more GUI contributors are always welcome :) 08:05:03 My hope is, whatever shoddy QML I write up is enough to help encourage someone w/ decent+ C++ foo to connect the pieces to the existing createWallet() createTx(), etc functions, and then we can sort out the CMake and flatpak and get it published in the relevant stores 08:05:38 Discover for KDE, whatever Canonical's is called at this point being the two big ones 08:05:43 Most of the C++ is already written. A mobile port of the GUI will most likely be purely QML. 08:08:13 Way over my head. I can do some web development, but can't chime in on any of this. 08:08:56 QML is quite similar to JavaScript. 08:09:43 Hmm, to put it another way, hasn't been work on it in a year. I'm hoping to get a first draft of the UI code that makes up the Pages (think the View part of MVC (I do dev in .NET stack so best parallel I can think of)) 08:11:33 Given the 'Controller' and 'Model' parts pretty much already exist w/ desktop wallet can be re-purposed, in theory after View work it should just be some 'minor' stitching together 08:18:57 * That was slightly preceded in Mar/April of 2019 w/ me pushing someone more 'official' (ended up being rehrar) to talk to Purism about what was happening with their LibremPay wallet 08:36:32 I'm sure some features and implementations would have to be changed because of the difference in mobile hardware, touch input, extra capabilities like notifications and Face/Touch ID, etc? 08:39:43 Yes, definitely some feature would need to be changed I think at the logic level, potentially. I'm not sure what differences might need to be accounted for in terms of home directory, etc when using flatpak. Just know it should be much less than writing everything from scratch, hopefully 08:40:38 And the Linux mobile UI frameworks are still very much a WIP 08:41:52 Doesn't have to be all done at once either. Just getting a solid foundation that works done is a big step and makes it easier for others to contribute. 08:45:17 Yep, exactly. It's all about building step by step. My favorite go to example to explaining to people who don't like the state of Linux mobile now is that it took until iOS 3 to send picture messages for a company that makes billions every year. It'll be rough, but hopefully it's a exponential growth as frameworks improve, and it gets easier to package and publish via IDE's, etc 08:54:15 Good example of what's possible in terms of cross platform with QML and C++: https://lwn.net/Articles/780031/ 10:23:57 Very cool effort, scott. 12:28:32 * d4ndo[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/QYddanXlYhiXQWcdTwzolIAZ > 14:27:00 Hey, what are some good monero sites/links ? 14:31:35 http://getmonero.org/ http://monero.how/ 14:32:06 https://www.localmonero.co/ 14:34:19 https://monero.win 14:41:16 (7.60x) +7.60000 XMR 14:41:18 oof