01:52:11 <Avernus666> Hey, I am a bit of a noob and have just converted BTC to XMR on elude. The input has had 9 confirmations and the output information has appeared yet nothing has appeared in my wallet.
01:52:31 <Avernus666> Is there an amount of time this takes? I'm just slightly worried lol
01:52:37 <selsta> Avernus666: what wallet are you using?
01:52:55 <Avernus666> Elude's to recieve the XMR
01:54:22 <selsta> You have to ask them.
01:54:56 <selsta> I have never heard of Elude but it seems like they have the private key so it isn’t a real wallet.
01:55:40 <kevcrumb> maybe they just wait for the 10th confirm
01:55:50 <kevcrumb> (unlocked)
01:56:11 <Avernus666> I've sent them in a ticket but I'm aware I'm likely just being impatient with it
01:56:33 <Avernus666> It seemed to be a reliable enough resource
01:56:33 <kevcrumb> in monero you cannot spend an output before 10 confirms, Avernus666
01:57:06 <kevcrumb> maybe the devs decided to show you the balance only once it's actually spendable
01:57:14 <kevcrumb> just guessing though
01:57:17 <Avernus666> Thank you man. It's pretty nervewrecking first going about this for the first time haha
01:57:42 <selsta> kevcrumb: I don’t think this is a real wallet.
01:57:55 <selsta> So no Monero transaction involved here.
01:58:00 <kevcrumb> yeah IT can be stressful
01:58:19 <kevcrumb> oh. didn't bother to look it up
01:59:03 <Avernus666> It's had ten confirms yet hasn't appeared. I assumed Elude was reliable...
02:01:10 <kevcrumb> ... the "elude" part seems to be
02:01:15 <kevcrumb> worked for your XMR
07:15:14 <vampyren> morning guys
07:16:45 <vampyren> i have some big issue with the wallet sync, i changed to a new pc and now i cant start the wallet with the daemon, had to start the monerod.exe manually from dos
07:17:05 <vampyren> i start seeing this now:
07:17:07 <vampyren> 2020-05-11 07:10:31.902 I Synced 2031481/2095798 (96%, 64317 left)
07:17:07 <vampyren> 2020-05-11 07:10:34.734 W [38.68.37.251:35274 INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2095427 instead of 12) - we may be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed
07:17:07 <vampyren> 2020-05-11 07:10:34.943 I Synced 2031501/2095798 (96%, 64297 left)
07:17:57 <vampyren> i tried to ask in telegram but no answer so hope someone can answer here :)
07:18:02 <vampyren> If i want to verify i'm on the right chain, is this the correct way of doin it?
07:18:02 <vampyren> I did a ==> print_block 1505540
07:18:02 <vampyren> Next i check the same block on explorer moneroblocks.info/search/1505540
07:18:02 <vampyren> And compare the hash .....
07:18:02 <vampyren> Am i doing it right ?
07:28:19 <selsta> vampyren: What is the exact problem?
07:28:44 <selsta> The daemon logs look good.
07:29:07 <selsta> The GUI can’t start monerod?
07:32:27 <vampyren> well once i started the wallet on my second pc it would not start the daemon
07:32:49 <vampyren> i changed port to default (was using another port) but it refused to start
07:33:37 <vampyren> Also it started to sync like the output you saw above....plus now i saw that message
07:33:50 <vampyren> been behaving very strange to be honest
07:34:03 <vampyren> i'm actually starting to import from raw file now just to be sure
07:34:47 <vampyren> just cant figure out why the daemon wont start normally with the wallet
07:41:30 <vampyren> and another funky problem was that i wanted to change the location of wallet. When i did that then the sync started the painfull slow syncing from start again (takes many hours)....dont get why it just dont start right away, wallet location change should not affect anything....so a few issues
07:42:32 <vampyren> to summarize: 1) why wont daemon start with wallet? 2) how to verify i'm on right chain 3)why does the wallet start syncing again for no reason
07:53:48 <selsta> vampyren: don’t import the raw blockchai
07:54:02 <selsta> blockchain, there is nothing weird in your logs
07:54:19 <selsta> `peer claims higher version that we think (13 for 2095427 instead of 12) - we may be forked from the network and a software upgrade may be needed` is a warning you can ignore
07:55:14 <selsta> are you using Windows?
07:56:18 <selsta> "why does the wallet start syncing again for no reason" <-- what does syncing again mean?
07:59:26 <selsta> Changing the wallet location does not cause resyncing. Are you sure that you didn’t change the blockchain location?
08:13:05 <vampyren> ok so the warrning i can ignore , thanks :)
08:13:14 <vampyren> yes on windows GUI
08:13:45 <vampyren> for sure i did not change blockchain location, i see in regedit the location to verify too
08:13:52 <vampyren> i basically closed the wallet
08:14:10 <vampyren> used restore from hw wallet and it started the paiful sync in progress
08:14:37 <vampyren> maybe 7-8h later i was at 96%
08:15:10 <vampyren> sadly i started the raw import just to be sure already
08:15:38 <vampyren> but one big issue is wallet dont start teh daemon, it times out after 2min
08:16:10 <vampyren> worked fine the first time i tried it with another port but now it just wont
08:16:21 <vampyren> will see once import is finished how it goes
08:16:28 <vampyren> almost 1/4 done
08:16:47 <vampyren> block 552950 / 1968799
08:17:20 <rbrunner7> Unfortunately that's not 1/4th of the necessary time. Later blocks are much bigger ...
08:17:45 <vampyren> oh right its not a full raw :)
08:18:09 <vampyren> last block is 2095805
08:18:45 <vampyren> how about the verifation of chain, was i on the right track?
08:21:22 <selsta> are you using the Windows installer?
08:21:33 <rbrunner7> No, I didn't even noticed you gave a number smaller than 2 millions. I mean to say the first 4th of all blocks is nowhere near 1/4th of total sync effort because the remaining 3 4th of blocks are much bigger
08:21:56 <selsta> vampyren: Can you make sure that no anti virus is blocking the daemon from getting started?
08:22:17 <selsta> There have been a few users who reported your issue but we haven’t been able to reproduce it.
08:23:42 <vampyren> i used the zip file (like that more)
08:24:02 <vampyren> i added teh whole monero folder in exclude for AV (Eset32)
08:24:19 <vampyren> even disable it several times to be sure
08:24:44 <selsta> Okay, just so that we can try to find the problem, can you later try the installer?
08:25:33 <vampyren> can do but what will it do extra? i'm pretty familiar with windows and how it works :) old developer so tell me if you want me to check something please
08:27:26 <vampyren> i can see blockchainDataDir = D:\Blockchain\bitmonero
08:27:59 <selsta> Where do you see that?
08:28:36 <vampyren> in registry
08:28:42 <vampyren> Computer\HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\monero-project\monero-core
08:29:41 <selsta> Yes but if you start the daemon manually then it will not use this location.
08:30:05 <selsta> I guess it will use the default location, somewhere on C:\
08:30:15 <selsta> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/issues/2808
08:30:22 <selsta> can you look through this issue post?
08:30:52 <vampyren> i used --data-dir when i started monerod
08:31:58 <vampyren> sure one sec, checking
08:35:08 <vampyren> i dont set the bootstrap setting as in this issue
08:36:21 <vampyren> default folder for blockchain on win-->C:\ProgramData\bitmonero\ on Windows
08:36:48 <vampyren> i did check and moenrod did not add anything there so thats how i knew it was using the right folder
08:36:56 <vampyren> https://monerodocs.org/interacting/overview/#data-directory
08:39:02 <vampyren> I think i did this just before i started the import -->Drop --data-dir argument from Daemon startup flags. Use Blockchain location field ins
08:39:16 <vampyren> so lets see once its synced and see how it works :)
08:43:21 <selsta> I still think it has something to do with AV blocking or some Windows rights issue
08:43:44 <selsta> else there should be an error message
08:44:02 <selsta> that’s why I wanted you to try the installer version as it usually gets the rights stuff right
08:45:48 <vampyren> I disable my AV, even added a rule in windows FW (which is not active while i use AV to allow the 18080), tried even to check if ports are open in router using https://www.canyouseeme.org/
08:46:54 <vampyren> Trying to understand what the issue is
08:48:15 <vampyren> when i start the monerod the port is open and working fine
08:48:21 <vampyren> but now when i started wallet gui
08:48:42 <vampyren> but will give status once i'm synced
08:48:51 <vampyren> sort of half way now
08:49:38 <selsta> should not be a port issue
08:49:40 <selsta> or router
08:49:53 <vampyren> reason i like zip file is that i like to learn what things are placed and how programs work :)
08:50:03 <vampyren> nah dont think so either
08:50:23 <vampyren> port is open and working with moenrod so that we can thick off :)
08:50:30 <selsta> the GUI simply starts the monerod process
08:50:46 <vampyren> yeah it should but i dont see it in the process list
08:50:49 <vampyren> that is also strange
08:50:54 <selsta> nothing fancy and it works for almost all users so it’s weird that it does not for some users
08:51:40 <vampyren> i can actually in my Antivirus(with firewall builtin) see monerod when i start it from command prompt , it works fine
08:51:48 <vampyren> but when i start the wallet its not showing
08:53:06 <vampyren> in Antivirus(with firewall builtin)
08:53:27 <selsta> do you have windows defender running too?
08:53:41 <mmxxx[m]> lol windows...
08:53:41 <Quotes> fuck windows, use linux!
08:54:06 <mmxxx[m]> ^
08:54:41 <vampyren> hehe
08:56:29 <vampyren> just 99% of users use win :) although i like OSX allot
14:41:39 <vampyren> damn didnt reallize it would take so long to expand, last time i did it during night :) at block  1914870 / 1968799
14:42:21 <vampyren> btw is there another channel that people talk more about Monero? its pretty quiet here , same with Telegram really
14:42:54 <vampyren> considering the fanbase ...
14:43:14 <takel> yes this is very serious issue
14:43:32 <takel> are u mining alone
14:44:12 <vampyren> lol is that a bot?
14:44:29 <takel> i have intel E7- 4870 and opteron 6272
14:44:46 <takel> what is better for solo mining
14:45:19 <shillo> #monero-pools
14:45:25 <shillo> 4mining
14:45:39 <selsta> vampyren: #monero is usually only user support
14:47:43 <vampyren> selsta sure but every project have their channel for social chat and stuff :)
14:48:18 <vampyren> i love the discussion that is not only price price but a bit also into tech, future roadmap etc
14:48:59 <takel> i dont like pools
14:49:00 <vampyren> to keep close to project and members
14:49:45 <selsta> vampyren: #monero-markets #monero-community, #monero-pools, #monero-dev
14:50:04 <selsta> #monero-research-lab
14:50:37 <vampyren> ahhh thanks
14:51:04 <takel> how to better exploit this cpus
14:51:16 <takel>  CPU E7- 4870 opteron 6272
14:52:07 <vampyren> baby crying :( be back :)
14:59:39 <takel> selsta what to do about boost files that can not be found
14:59:56 <takel> i did some sed changes but still same errors
15:00:38 <selsta> sadly don’t know
15:01:56 <takel> after sed changes some other boost directives couldn't be found
15:05:53 <dEBRUYNE> vampyren: Reddit also has quite the discussion, but it is less interactive
15:06:55 <selsta> afaik there are 2 telegram groups but don’t know how active they are
15:08:29 <goldmine_compact> the MoneroGER group is extremely active, only downside: it's in German
15:10:33 <goldmine_compact>  * the MoneroGER group (on Telegram) is extremely active, only downside: it's in German
15:17:58 <miziel> monero-pools is like the heart... no, like some other vital organ of community - a kidney, or a liver maybe :)))
15:42:13 <shillo> miziel: the lower intestine
15:42:29 <fort3hlulz> Figured I'd throw this in r/CryptoCurrency too: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/ghpx6n/new_ath_in_monero_daily_transactions_on_58/
15:42:49 <shillo> pump it sir
15:44:06 <vampyren> dEBRUYNE i check reddit actually but not that many articles, still nice for discussion, wish devs put out more though
15:44:41 <vampyren> yeah german wont do :) and i dont mine so
15:44:56 <vampyren> but nice with these additional
15:45:56 <vampyren> btw now the wallet started ok , meaning started the monerod
15:46:31 <vampyren> its at "waiting for darmon to sync", been at it for a while, not sure why that takes so long
15:46:44 <vdo> I guess DNM trade increasing because of lockdowns
15:47:21 <vdo> could be part of xmr traffic?
15:47:26 <selsta> vampyren: did you set the correct blockchain folder in settings -> node?
15:47:41 <vampyren> >>> status
15:47:41 <vampyren> [2020-05-11 17:47] 2020-05-11 15:47:13.962 I Monero 'Carbon Chamaeleon' (v0.15.0.1-6def88ad4)
15:47:41 <vampyren> 2020-05-11 15:47:13.963 I Generating SSL certificate
15:47:41 <vampyren> Height: 1971940/2096047 (94.1%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 294.35 MH/s, v11, update needed, 9(out)+11(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 8m 42s
15:47:48 <vampyren> yes :)
15:48:07 <vampyren> always been correct there to be honest, never changed it
15:48:18 <selsta> looks good?
15:48:24 <selsta> the daemon still has to sync a bit
15:48:28 <vampyren> yes so far so good
15:48:36 <selsta> maybe the raw blockchain was not up to date
15:48:44 <vampyren> exactly
15:48:55 <vampyren> but the GUI is a bit confusing i must say
15:49:00 <selsta> what exactly? :P
15:49:07 <vampyren> the second bar for blockchain remaining i get
15:49:31 <selsta> daemon and wallet are separate
15:49:38 <vampyren> but why is the first bad empty "waiting for darmon to sync"
15:49:48 <selsta> the daemon has to get synced and then the wallet has to scan for outputs
15:50:05 <selsta> due to moneros privacy
15:50:23 <selsta> soo once the daemon is synced it will scan the wallet
15:50:33 <vampyren> i have +11 connection so assuming it should not be empty right?
15:51:07 <selsta> Wait for the daemon to sync first.
15:52:02 <vampyren> wil do thanks mate
15:52:13 <vampyren> dinner time, will let it do its thingy
17:13:36 <geonic> Anyone know if you have to download the whole blockchain first before you prune it?
17:13:54 <selsta> geonic: no
17:14:45 <geonic> tx. any idea what the current pruned size is?
17:16:12 <selsta> 27GB
17:21:52 <geonic> thank you
17:24:12 <geonic> can you mine with a pruned chain?
17:27:01 <gingeropolous> geonic, yes
17:28:55 <geonic> thanks
19:05:34 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Hullo everybody
19:06:04 <miziel> hullo
19:06:22 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Just noticed the Monero BTC donation address was drained of its funds in February. Are people aware this happened? Why did it happen?
19:13:49 <miziel> there is a btc donation address? :|
19:15:08 <miziel> aaah, there is...
19:15:28 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Sorry my client disconnected. Did somebody answer my question?
19:16:01 <miziel> no, not yet
19:16:46 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Ok thanks :)
19:19:35 <camthegeek> fluffypony needed a new watch
19:19:55 <PatBoy> hahaha
19:26:39 <RandomXylophone> Maybe somebody moved all the BTC into XMR?
19:39:47 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Client disconnected. Did somebody answer my question?
19:47:41 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Ugh this web client is frustrating as it keeps disconnecting
19:52:27 <commandocrypto[m> <XMR-RandomX-Frea "Client disconnected. Did somebod"> use riot-desktop or gomuks or nheko. but either way, you won't miss messages. even if ur using a web client like riot-web
19:52:56 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Is that available for iOS?
19:53:57 <camthegeek> riot is
19:54:19 <asymptotically> https://apps.apple.com/app/irccloud/id672699103
19:54:39 <camthegeek> riot.im on app store
19:54:57 <camthegeek> irccloud good too ^
19:55:19 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Interesting
19:58:31 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> jwinterm Do you know why the BTC donation address was drained in Feb? I don’t remember an announcement about this
19:59:12 <jwinterm> what btc donation address?
19:59:17 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Moneros
19:59:23 <jwinterm> I have no clue
19:59:31 <jwinterm> I don't send or withdraw from there
20:01:18 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> It was the entire wallets balance. Like 13 BTC
20:01:51 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Who would know? Maybe fluffypony?
20:01:59 <ndorf> i didn't even know there was a BTC donation address
20:07:26 <dEBRUYNE> Drained seems like a bit of an excessive term
20:07:30 <dEBRUYNE> It was probably used to cover expenses
20:08:57 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> $130,000 in a single month?
20:09:04 <XMR-RandomX-Frea>  What expenses?
20:14:15 <fort3hlulz> Huh guess this is the address: https://blockstream.info/address/1KTexdemPdxSBcG55heUuTjDRYqbC5ZL8H
20:14:18 <fort3hlulz> Didn't even know that was a thing
20:14:48 <jwinterm> I mean, if they just converted it to dollars, wasn't exactly bad timing
20:14:58 <XMR-RandomX-Frea> Don’t use bloodstream. Use blockchair it’s more private
20:15:10 <gingeropolous> just trace it. where'd it go?
20:15:29 <jwinterm> 1fluffyponywatchfund10285204581h13rhxi10r
20:18:04 <camthegeek> see, a new watch.
20:19:41 <fort3hlulz> Came to life on the 3rd and sent most funds to 1BA7gJM9KhdCjEa2EsUmKhDh1Zi8FKfySq
20:19:58 <fort3hlulz> With a few other smaller transactions to other addresses
20:21:30 <fort3hlulz> Which then went to an exchange, I think
20:22:06 <camthegeek> (its binance)
20:22:15 <fort3hlulz> There ya go :P
20:22:28 <camthegeek> but the fluffypony watch piece is better
20:22:42 <fort3hlulz> Sold basically the top at $10.3k
20:22:46 <fort3hlulz> notbad.jpg
20:22:49 <camthegeek> was a good call
20:23:40 <camthegeek> guy knew it was ~$130k but wasn't sure where it went? :S
20:23:50 <fort3hlulz> lol
20:23:54 <fort3hlulz> The beauty of BTC
20:24:09 <fort3hlulz> Took me all of 5m to find out where the money went, when, and how much
20:24:25 <asymptotically> blockstream explorer is pretty based
20:24:42 <camthegeek> I did it earlier. $130k is about the cost of a watch for fp right?
20:24:42 <fort3hlulz> Yeah just tried Blockchair and its not bad
20:24:45 <fort3hlulz> had never heard of it
20:24:55 <fort3hlulz> https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/1KTexdemPdxSBcG55heUuTjDRYqbC5ZL8H