07:23:28 <vampyren> hi guys, i'm a bit new to Monero, tried to talk in Telegram but it seems to be very quiet so i seeked my way here
07:32:10 <vampyren> i'm using the ledger to store my monero i recently got but trying to learn the wallet first...
07:32:47 <vampyren> i tried to copy the blockchain from C:\ProgramData\bitmonero to D:\Blockchain\bitmonero , is this the folder i point out i the wallet?
07:41:28 <vampyren> daemon is not starting right now for some reason
07:42:22 <d4ndo[m]> The wallet is @ Documents\Monero
07:43:50 <vampyren> if i want to specify a port for the node i'm guessing it has to be in starup flags field?
07:46:07 <vampyren> find some old picture in google where there is field for IP and port but they are not there in new wallet
07:47:31 <vampyren> found this: --p2p-bind-port myport
07:47:34 <vampyren> right?
07:48:23 <d4ndo[m]> settings -> node -> remote node
07:49:14 <vampyren> i meant to run local node but defining my own port, maybe its not possible?
07:49:29 <vampyren> need to do a portforward i think since daemon not starting now
07:49:37 <d4ndo[m]> Just use 127.0.0.1
07:51:29 <d4ndo[m]> Or wait let me check for that daemon flag
07:52:37 <ErCiccione> vampyren: it is possible and you were on the right track with --p2p-bind-port
07:52:55 <ErCiccione> take a look here: https://monerodocs.org/interacting/monerod-reference/#p2p-network
07:53:37 <vampyren> ahh nice thanks
07:53:52 <vampyren> yesterday the wallet started fine but now it wont start the daemon
07:53:59 <d4ndo[m]> --p2p-bind-port xxxxx
07:54:00 <vampyren> i did change the location of blockchain
07:54:32 <vampyren> D:\Blockchain\bitmonero
07:56:17 <d4ndo[m]> --data-dir D:\Blockchain\bitmonero
07:57:06 <vampyren> ahhh nice, with the --p2p-bind-port xxxxx it now started fine
07:57:42 <vampyren> d4ndo[m]: for the Blockchain location there is a dedicated field so i used that field
07:58:16 <d4ndo[m]> ah - ok
08:00:19 <vampyren> still good to know the right param :)
08:00:22 <vampyren> thanks for help
08:03:07 <d4ndo[m]> np
08:11:18 <vampyren> one last thing(i hope), now each time i start it ask if i want to use custom setting with the countdown, is there a way to make the wallet use the customer flag without me clicking on "use custom settings" each time?
08:30:08 <d4ndo[m]> no idea. Anyone!?
08:34:55 <vampyren> also i see from the stats that blockchain size is about 60GB but my mdb file is 85gb right now, thats a big diff , do i need to do "pruning" ?
08:38:31 <ErCiccione> is there a way to make the wallet use the customer flag without me clicking on "use custom settings" each time? <-I don't know if those settings are persistent. Selsta?
08:38:56 <ErCiccione> vampyren: yes, you can prune from the beginning, so your blockchain size will be about 30GB
08:39:14 * ErCiccione afk
08:40:03 <selsta> ErCiccione: not sure what you mean
08:40:09 <vampyren> thanks
08:40:37 <vampyren> https://moneroblocks.info/stats shows full size is 60GB so was wondering why the extra 25GB, maybe normal?
08:42:19 <asymptotically> vampyren: monero stores it on the disk in a way that makes it faster to access, and that takes up more space
08:42:46 <vampyren> selsta: i have set custom port but each time i start the wallet there is a countdown....if i dont click on the button "use custom settings" the wallet will use default value, this is fine if the user hasnt change anything but if i have custom value i want them to be used by default
08:42:52 <ErCiccione> selsta: see vampyren's question above. Unless i misunderstood their question
08:43:06 * ErCiccione gotta go now
08:43:19 <selsta> vampyren: I don’t think this is true.
08:43:39 <selsta> Use custom settings means that you can change the settings but they should get saved.
08:43:57 <selsta> So you don’t have to click it.
08:45:22 <vampyren> sure they are saved, i check the registry in windows but what happens if i dont click on "use custom settings"
08:45:37 <vampyren> will it actually use the saved values that i have set you mean?
08:46:32 <vampyren> asymptotically: so the 60GB is expanded to 85GB for fast access you mean?
08:46:53 <selsta> vampyren: yes
08:47:15 <selsta> It just means don’t start the daemon yet, I want to go to the settings
08:47:25 <selsta> it does not mean start with default settings
08:48:54 <vampyren> ooh i see
08:49:23 <vampyren> its a bit missleading with the text "use custom settings" in that case
08:49:31 <vampyren> but now i understand it :)
08:49:35 <vampyren> thanks guys
08:49:38 <d4ndo[m]> *is also a bit confused by that popup.
08:50:45 <selsta> yea that popup should get updated at some point
08:50:50 <vampyren> i would simply remove the popup or just say daemot starting in... (and show the countdown as is)
08:51:21 <vampyren> *daemon
08:51:41 <vampyren> still the wallet has been much improved since last i saw it
08:52:01 <vampyren> + ledger support is a huge plus
08:52:55 <d4ndo[m]> I like the dark mode best.
08:53:17 <selsta> vampyren: but some people don’t want to start the daemon yet and change settings
08:53:20 <selsta> I use it often
08:53:32 <selsta> but yea I guess I will find a solution
08:54:19 <vampyren> d4ndo[m]agree, i use darkmode in everything, much easier on the eye :)
08:55:21 <vampyren> selsta: totally agree , that is why i suggested the text should maybe say "Starting the Daemon in"... instead of "use custom settings" , since basically what the button does is stop the Daemon from starting :)
08:56:16 <selsta> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oUewlDNv/Screenshot%202020-05-05%20at%2010.56.06.png
08:56:22 <selsta> this is one design suggestion ^
08:57:01 <vampyren> yeah exactly :)
08:57:27 <d4ndo[m]> Start local node 10 ... 9    [Cancel] [ ] Dont show this popup again.
08:57:43 <vampyren> i use to make windows application so i love tweaking and making things more easy for end users ;)
08:57:43 <Quotes> fuck windows, use linux!
08:57:49 <vampyren> hehe
08:59:21 <vampyren> playing a bit win Mint which is actually the first ever Linux dist that works perfect but sadly Linux wont work with Games and remote desktoping between my boxes isnt that awesome of experience
08:59:26 <vampyren> still love Mint
08:59:41 <vampyren> they done a awesome job with the package
08:59:55 <vampyren> i'm noob at linux so
09:00:39 <asymptotically> isn't it just debian/ubuntu with insecure package servers and extra vulnerabilities sprinkled in?
09:03:02 <azy> and a cool name
09:03:12 <vampyren> sure based on Ubuntu but as a noon it just works, like i installed Ubuntu and spend almost 2 days with people trying to help me get smb to work with my other windows machines and NAS, it just wouldnt work, seemed simple but it refused. And Mint just worked without any issue
09:03:21 <vampyren> so for noobs its a nice starting point
09:03:29 <vampyren> btw sorry getting of-topic here :)
09:03:58 <vampyren> selsta thats is a nice suggestion btw
09:04:51 <selsta> I was part of the original GUI design but we didn’t implement it yet
09:07:14 <vampyren> ah i see, hope to see your work in action soon ;)
09:07:17 <d4ndo[m]> selsta: Looks better. But Is the timeout necessary? Psychologically one feels compelled to press the button although it is not necessary.
09:07:30 <d4ndo[m]> it's that pressure.XD
09:07:46 <vampyren> hehe i know the feeling d4ndo[m] :D
09:14:02 <vampyren> of to lunch, nice talking to u all
09:14:25 <d4ndo[m]> cu
11:27:07 <maybefbi> hey are subaddresses popular in the monero community?
11:55:55 <maybefbi> because if you are truly paranoid you should know that there is the janus attack to link to subaddresses by creating a specially crafted transaction
12:04:46 <selsta> https://web.getmonero.org/2019/10/18/subaddress-janus.html
12:42:16 <maybefbi> selsta: cool. I didnt know they have already warned users about it
12:49:50 <hv-bridge> <D​onkeybrrrrrr> Is something going on here, https://miningpoolstats.stream/loki
12:51:57 <hv-bridge> <D​onkeybrrrrrr> the big chinese pool had a massive hash spike earlier now its not on miningpoolstats
12:52:04 <hv-bridge> <D​onkeybrrrrrr> \x ??
12:52:16 <asymptotically> D​onkeybrrrrrr: looks like a chain split. im sure its just problems with the traditional banking system and everyones funds are safe :D
12:53:40 <asymptotically> at least 4 of the top 5 pools are following the same chain, i wonder why miningpoolstats.stream decides to show the shorter mine2gether chain as the main one
12:54:21 <hv-bridge> <D​onkeybrrrrrr> is it possible the big chinese pool forked it on them?
14:21:27 <Nebraskka> hv-bridge, it could be related to a recent saltstack RCE and malware miners being run on thousands of servers, details: https://github.com/saltstack/salt/issues/57057
14:21:41 <Nebraskka> also tldr: https://gist.github.com/taigrr/6520246a19d2e69985802a5d75a49279
14:22:00 <Nebraskka> happens since 3rd may
14:32:34 <asymptotically> is there a way to make --block-notify not trigger when the daemon isnt synced up yet?
18:14:44 <fruitoshisnakamo> hello
18:14:49 <fruitoshisnakamo> i forgot how to log in
18:15:20 <yanmaani> msg nickserv auth
18:15:23 <asymptotically> to your wallet? to a mining pool?
18:15:54 <fruitoshisnakamo> no on here
18:16:02 <fruitoshisnakamo> i sold all my cryptos in 2015...
18:16:02 <Quotes> CRYPTO IS NOT CRYPTOCURRENCY ಠ_ಠ ~ IT REFERS TO CRYPTOGRAPHY, fruitoshisnakamo
18:16:28 <fruitoshisnakamo> ... I am a bagholder of a shitcoin that is now dead... a proof of play coin that nobody can even mine coz someone created some bot for the crazy blockchain...
18:17:01 <fruitoshisnakamo> may I ask if anyone knows some chatrooms where there can be enjoyed general banter rather than being constrained to specific topics, as I'm quite bored and studying for a Uni. test tomorrow...
18:17:24 <fruitoshisnakamo> listening to a thunderstorm and a crackling fire on youtube seems to help, but I can't help but feel forgotten by my Aunts, said Cinderella
18:19:37 <fruitoshisnakamo> could have bought properties with my cryptos from 2014 if I was a HODLer till Dec 2017... now I'm a wretched Uni. student with nothing... except a bursary which has yet to pay out
18:21:47 <kxsl> the whole point of topical rooms is to find people to discuss a specific projects. some projects have a social or offtopic channel, and you should be able to find something in channel list if you just want to shoot the shit with anons
19:03:36 <netrik182[m]> Maybe someone how knows more about pruned nodes than me could help here. Is this sentence write:
19:03:41 <netrik182[m]> It only stores 1/8th of unnecessary blockchain data while keeping the full transaction history.
19:04:01 <netrik182[m]> Or it should read: It only stores 1/8th of necessary blockchain data...
19:04:26 <netrik182[m]> s/write/right
19:14:01 <selsta> netrik182[m]: no this is intentional, not sure how to formulate it better
19:14:41 <selsta> it stores 1/8th of unnecessary ring signature data and prunes 7/8th of it
19:15:26 <netrik182[m]> Yeah, I get it now. Reading another sentence on this subject I understand. The "unnecessary" that it refers to is a so called "not very important" data
19:18:18 <netrik182[m]> In my translation I'm leaning to use something in the lines of "non vital data" which makes more sense in Portuguese at least
19:18:37 <selsta> well I’m sure it could be formulated better :)
19:18:42 <selsta> in English
19:19:41 <fruitoshisnakamo> I don't really only want to shoot the shit with anons, as I have some affinity to Moneroers... I had bought a fair share of dark now dash coin, and regret not getting monero: I was there from the beginning, and I have nothing to show for it lul
19:22:26 <selsta> fruitoshisnakamo: you might want to join #monero-markets for more general crypto talk
19:24:51 <fruitoshisnakamo> t.y.
19:25:31 <fruitoshisnakamo> a ffs