07:08:28 <mmxxx[m]> ohai bill :)
08:03:18 <d4ndo[m]> What happend to that LoRa (LowEnergy/wide range) project? https://locha.io/
08:05:31 <d4ndo[m]> I really like the idea of sending Monero or Bitcoin via those LoRa devices. I also found this https://www.hackster.io/scottpowell69/lora-mesh-chat-5267d9
08:07:11 <d4ndo[m]> A uniform bluetooth to lora interface for Monerojo or the Cake wallet would not be bad.
08:12:08 <d4ndo[m]> Range is 2 km. You get two of those devices for 20$. Combined with a powerbank a device could run for weeks. A single person could setup several pirate relays in a city on high altitude locations. Just needs some camuflage.
08:34:59 <xmrmatterbridge> <rbrunner7> Hmmm, no payouts yet, and no completed milestones yet on their Twitter: https://ccs.getmonero.org/proposals/randybrito-locha-mesh.html https://twitter.com/Locha_io Maybe taking long than anticipated?
08:46:53 <d4ndo[m]> A working prototype would not be so bad. All hardware and software must be released under an open source license. This corporate website is not sufficient. The locha team has to prove itself first.
08:53:22 <tryphe> has anyone else noticed that, for the past year or so, xmr/btc is a more sideways market than oil/btc, usd/btc(to some short-term degree), metals/btc, major etfs(s&p,dji,ndx)/btc, aapl/btc, amazon/btc, almost every other alt, etc.?
08:54:33 <tryphe> stablecoinz yo
09:27:11 <yanmaani> number don't go up eh
13:10:33 <Zero-ghost[m]> anyone with a ledger nano and on arch/manjaro verify the gui wallet is working with the ledger currently?
13:10:57 <Zero-ghost[m]> cant get it to restore my account i have on it since before system crash
13:11:32 <Zero-ghost[m]> ledger live works, so believe i have all the udev crap set up correctly
13:15:42 <selsta> Zero-ghost[m]: can you explain the exact problem?
13:16:01 <selsta> what is the error message that shows up?
13:25:00 <Zero-ghost[m]> selsta: "unable to open device"
13:25:19 <Zero-ghost[m]> so it sees that there is a device and it cant access it for some reason
13:25:30 <Zero-ghost[m]> while the ledger live app can
13:25:40 <selsta> yes, is unable to open device the full error message?
13:25:53 <Zero-ghost[m]> i also uninstalled and reinstalled the monero app on ledger live
13:26:08 <selsta> can you try the getmonero.org gui version?
13:26:20 <selsta> it is possible that the arch repo compiled it without ledger support
13:26:37 <Zero-ghost[m]> "failed to generate new wallet:  unable to open device 1:11415"
13:27:04 <Zero-ghost[m]> same error weather i try to actually create a new wallet on the ledger or try to recover the original wallet i made on there
13:27:07 <selsta> hmm that usually means something else is accessing the ledger
13:27:14 <selsta> is ledger live opened?
13:27:24 <Zero-ghost[m]> i did download it from getmonero.org
13:27:32 <Zero-ghost[m]> not using a repo version
13:27:51 <Zero-ghost[m]> no i close ledger live before trying to access it with the monero gui
13:28:04 <Zero-ghost[m]> also tried unplugging and plugging in fresh before running monero
13:28:44 <selsta> monero app is opened?
13:28:49 <selsta> ledger unlocked?
13:29:27 <selsta> did you add udev rules? https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005165269-Fix-connection-issues
13:29:54 <Zero-ghost[m]> yup all the udev rules
13:30:29 <Zero-ghost[m]> if i leave ledger at the main screen the monero gui says "no device" instead of 'unable to open'
13:30:55 <selsta> is the ledger monero app v1.5.1 installed?
13:31:04 <Zero-ghost[m]> yup
13:31:14 <selsta> okay, the only idea I have is
13:31:25 <selsta> restarting your system, plug Ledger in and try again
13:31:26 <Zero-ghost[m]> ledger live up to date, and ledger firmware up to date
13:31:50 <selsta> unable to open device usually means that the ledger is already in use by some other software
13:32:18 <Zero-ghost[m]> yea im gonna try wiping the monero hidden config folder and then try that
13:32:42 <selsta> monero hidden config folder?
13:32:46 <selsta> don’t think that is required
13:34:53 <Zero-ghost[m]> yea .bitmonero in the home folder
13:35:13 <Zero-ghost[m]> just trying to start as clean as possible
13:35:27 <Zero-ghost[m]> i was using simple anyway so dont have the full blockchain to redownload
13:35:31 <selsta> ok
13:45:34 <fibonacci> Norome
16:55:13 <gingeropolous> ever wonder how well adobe acrobat reader performs with 100 files open?
16:56:08 <selsta> why would you use adobe acrobat reader?
16:56:24 <gingeropolous> program im using spits out files as .pdf
16:58:24 <selsta> you can use a browser to view pdfs :P might work better than adobe stuff
17:00:08 <d4ndo[m]> You can print it on dead wood and it might work better.
17:00:15 <gingeropolous> lol
17:00:45 <gingeropolous> tell us how you really feel about it
17:01:25 <gingeropolous> hrm i think i can spit em out as jpgs... shoulda done that
17:01:38 <selsta> pdfs should be ok
17:01:55 <selsta> but I’ve always had bad experiences with Acrobat
17:02:56 <gingeropolous> well i need to visually scan through 500 files with my eyeballs
17:03:00 <gingeropolous> because computers can suck it
17:03:03 <d4ndo[m]> yeah -pdf's  are fine. After all - »pdf« was invented for printing.
17:03:37 <d4ndo[m]> uhh - that sucks
17:28:27 <gingeropolous> possible dumb question indicating my level of how OS works: so im running a script. the OS presumably moved a copy of that running script to memory. so if I go in and edit the script, the original will still run.... i could just make a new script file.
17:30:54 <manifest> gingeropolous: with a normal file being run as a say, bash script and you modify the script while it's running it should not affect the already running process
17:31:01 <manifest> might wanna check that with someone else tho
17:46:01 <mystik> good evening