00:44:48 <newyearday>  hello
00:45:56 <newyearday> i have an output like "CHECK_AND_ASSERT_THROW_MES(count > 0, "count == 0");"
00:46:33 <newyearday> any explanation?
00:57:20 <newyearday> block is not found?
01:07:41 <newyearday> back
01:19:52 <newyearday> anyone if possible help on explaining this line
01:19:54 <newyearday> CHECK_AND_ASSERT_THROW_MES(count > 0, "count == 0");
01:28:11 <newyearday> anyone here
01:31:32 <UkoeHB_> Try the search bar?
01:32:44 <newyearday> i dont know what u mean
01:49:03 <UkoeHB_> https://github.com/monero-project/monero/search?q=%22CHECK_AND_ASSERT_THROW_MES%28count+%3E+0%2C+%22count+%3D%3D+0%22%29%3B%22&unscoped_q=%22CHECK_AND_ASSERT_THROW_MES%28count+%3E+0%2C+%22count+%3D%3D+0%22%29%3B%22
01:49:06 <UkoeHB_> tada found it
01:50:30 <newyearday> what this line does is the question
01:57:47 <newyearday> whoever want to help  i have all output here http://paste.debian.net/1142016/
12:20:24 <RobRawks> hey everyone. This is my first cryptocurrency that I've actively participated in (outside of exchanges). I created a local node using monerod.exe and opened ports 18080/18081. How can I tell if I'm contributing to the network?
12:21:52 <asymptotically> RobRawks: try typing status into the monerod window. it'll tell you how many inbound and outbound connections you have
12:23:03 <moneromooo> You probably want to close 18081. That's the RPC port. If you do intend to offer RPC services and want to keep it open, make sure you run with --restricted-rpc.
12:23:21 <moneromooo> But for a newbie, you probably don't.
12:23:29 <RobRawks> I am running rpc as well. I did launch the daemon with --restricted-rpc
12:23:37 <moneromooo> OK.
12:24:02 <moneromooo> You may also want --public-node then, this will let it be advertised on the p2p network so others will find it.
12:24:09 <moneromooo> (if you don't have it yet)
12:24:51 <moneromooo> You might also find "print_net_stats" useful.
12:25:05 <RobRawks> Ok, I'll add --public-node to m bat file
12:38:31 <RobRawks> sorry for the newb questions, but does monerod.exe have a log file? After adding my flags in the bat file, it crashes.
12:41:37 <moneromooo> Yes. Add --log-level 1, it should tell you where it's logging to.
12:41:56 <moneromooo> Crash is bad. If you're sure it crashes, file a bug.
12:42:16 <asymptotically> maybe it's a mistyped argument, but he can't see the help message because the command window immediately closes
12:52:20 <RobRawks> ok so it must be a mistyped arguement
12:52:20 <RobRawks> argument
12:53:52 <asymptotically> can you launch it through command prompt instead of double clicking the .bat file?
12:54:00 <asymptotically> or put the pause command at the end of your .bat file
12:56:08 <RobRawks> ok, I'll try through command prompt
13:01:01 <d4ndo[m]> You can also play around with --limit-rate to increase or decrease you bandwidth.
13:10:14 <RobRawks> Thanks asymptotically, i figured out the issue.
13:11:13 <RobRawks> d4ndo, I have fiber connection (1Gbps) when I don't limit, i get a lot of slowness on my network. I have it set to 1mbps, I'll play around with it to find a happy medium
13:13:03 <d4ndo[m]> lol. 1GB/s. turn it down to 56k
13:14:31 <d4ndo[m]> default is 2MBit/s up and 8 MBit/s down.
13:16:21 <RobRawks> Ok, i'll adjust lol
13:16:56 <d4ndo[m]> To set UP and DOWN to e.G. 50MBit/s use this command:  --limit-rate 50000
13:18:09 <RobRawks> So after fix the first error, i get this: 2020-04-22 13:11:54.701 F Error starting server: Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required)
13:19:13 <moneromooo> Kill the other monerod first.
13:22:57 <d4ndo[m]> Ah ok. It is probably still running. You can't start it twice.
13:24:12 <moneromooo> (You can if you give it new port to bind to.)
13:25:32 <d4ndo[m]> true
13:25:56 <RobRawks> sorry, i'm a collab admin, so i've never focused on sys admin stuff before lol
13:27:16 <d4ndo[m]> XD
13:37:32 <Inge-> ahaha. Monero gets a C+ Weiss rating, with Technology being "Weak"
13:37:40 <Inge-> https://weisscrypto.com/en/cryptos/screener/shared/coins-by-technology
13:39:07 <RobRawks> Probably because "MoNeRo dOeSnT sUpPoRt AsIcS"
13:39:53 <gingeropolous> dude its what makes them secure
13:40:01 <gingeropolous> because then the bad guys can't mine it
13:40:11 <gingeropolous> cause you need to get a license to own an asic
13:42:20 <RobRawks> Only the people that should mine can mine, like large corporations
13:42:49 <RobRawks> The tech shouldn't be used by individuals. Cause individuals are all drug dealers.
13:46:47 <Inge-> ahaha. IOTA is #3, Ripple #4 and Cardano has "Excellent" technology \o/
13:52:55 <d4ndo[m]> Technology = weak. They must have been smoking something.
14:00:40 <d4ndo[m]> Cardano is implemented in Haskell. Pretty cool if you ask me.
14:06:00 <moneromooo> You could do a Hello world in Haskell. I assume that's not what's meant by technology (or if it is, it might explain the rating).
14:08:07 <RobRawks> Ok, i think i solved it. I needed to bind my internal IP address and not my public one. Now, I have to chcek that the firewall is allowing connections. Thanks guys (gals)
14:20:18 <d4ndo[m]> moneromooo: i couldn't tell you. It is probably not the language.
15:19:59 <TrasherDK> Inge: So I clicked on the link. Couldn't help myself. Oh boy. That's sad. Wonder what's the criteria to get an "A" rating on that scale. I'm pretty sure tech is not one of them.
15:27:37 <niocbrrrrrr> depends what they are invested in
15:29:00 <moneromooo> I can never tell the difference beteen a realist person and a cynical person.
15:31:18 <TrasherDK> How about a sarcastic person? How much does it cost to get listed on weisscrypto.com with a top rating ?
15:41:58 <yanmaani> Probably it's neither, they seem way to incompetent
15:49:21 <RobRawks> you can read how Weiss rates cyrpto here https://weisscrypto.com/en/about
15:51:32 <selsta> no point in taking them seriously
15:53:29 <niocbrrrrrr> yes I looked at them when they first published it a few years ago, have no desire to even click a link now
15:54:20 <niocbrrrrrr> better to watch a video of mooo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx-CxuAeVPo
15:54:36 <niocbrrrrrr> sorry for vid but couldn't help myself
16:00:51 <yanmaani> it's retarded on several levels
16:01:21 <yanmaani> fundamentally, the idea of a ratings agency is that they estimate the quality of bonds
16:01:29 <yanmaani> As in, what are the risk levels here?
16:01:47 <yanmaani> There is no counterparty risk with cryptocurrency, just investment risk.
16:01:59 <yanmaani> There is no rating agency that rates commodities. Just analysts making opinions.
16:05:28 <moneromooo> Interestingly, there is a counterparty risk with all the mostly premined ones.
16:05:38 <moneromooo> Shit like ripple, say.
16:12:57 <yanmaani> not really
16:13:07 <yanmaani> it doesn't represent a loan
16:13:15 <yanmaani> if it goes down in value, then too bad
16:13:23 <yanmaani> but ripple isn't your counterparty
16:13:23 <Quotes> diisssscoonneeeeeee ♪ ┗(＾0＾)┓ ♪
16:13:41 <yanmaani> just like Microsoft isn't your counterparty when you buy their stock
16:14:07 <yanmaani> Bitconnect did literally represent a loan, using a fairly wide definition of the term
16:29:53 <moneromooo> In fact, even somehting like monero has a counterparty risk, as it doens't have to be an active thing.
16:30:31 <moneromooo> Except if you define counterparty like yanmaani wants. Maybe there's a canonical definition somewhere in the finance world.
16:31:40 <yanmaani> Yeah, counterparty is in plain English "the guy you have a contract with who you hope he'll do good on"
16:32:12 <moneromooo> Sounds pretty apt for ripple.
16:33:40 <yanmaani> Sure, except for the bit where you don't *actually* have a contract
16:34:01 <yanmaani> fun fact: Ripple actually predates Bitcoin, and Satoshi Nakamoto referred to it in his writings
16:34:48 <mmxxx[m]> TIL
16:35:38 <jwinterm> ripple the company
16:35:38 <yanmaani> I wonder if something like Ripple combined with Chaumian ecash would have worked to create a peer-to-peer electronic cash system
16:35:42 <jwinterm> but not ripple the token
16:35:44 <yanmaani> it'd have been convoluted as hell though
17:12:18 <TrasherDK> So, how many times did ripple fail in the past, before arriving at the current iteration?
17:13:32 <yanmaani> It wasn't a thing before. But it did exist. And it was sort of a cool idea
17:14:08 <TrasherDK> So was bitcoin.
17:14:21 <yanmaani> Bitcoin is and continues to be a thing
17:14:39 <yanmaani> Ripple was truly P2P. No blockchan or anything
17:14:41 <yanmaani> it was just pure WoT
17:15:13 <TrasherDK> Well, on a coolness scale..
18:28:39 <Inge-> TrasherDK: Yeah... it seems like a joke. But reality is that it takes quite a bit of work to understand this space, and each project
20:14:42 <selsta> Does Dandelion++ mean tx take longer to show up in tx pool?
20:15:46 <moneromooo> Yes, on average.
20:16:20 <selsta> Do you know how long on average? More than 10 seconds?
20:16:59 <moneromooo> No.
20:18:31 <yanmaani> don't know or not more?
20:18:54 <moneromooo> I don't know.
20:19:09 <wizardsmoke> Dandelion uses a Hamiltonian circuit, so the TX will need to traverse at least every node in the circuit.
20:19:10 <moneromooo> I doubt it's more than 10 seconds on average, though that's only a guess.
20:19:54 <moneromooo> Well, I'm thinking more like median than average I guess.
20:22:29 <selsta> Sending from a master daemon makes it show up in < 3 seconds. But I guess others don’t use Dandelion yet.
20:25:38 <yanmaani> Don't understand; why not just use Tor by default?
20:25:44 <yanmaani> I know that other options are theoretically better
20:25:48 <yanmaani> but Tor is a strong improvement NOW
20:36:13 <wizardsmoke> selsta: how are you timing it?
20:37:06 <selsta> GUI in merchant mode connected to a self hosted v0.15.1.0 remote node
20:37:16 <selsta> sending from a master daemon locally (which includes Dandelion++)
20:37:33 <selsta> it shows up on GUI in under 3 seconds
20:38:18 <selsta> so both nodes are in different countries
21:43:24 <kiwi_40> Hello
21:43:55 <kiwi_40> I want to buy monero
21:45:24 <newyearday> bisq
21:46:35 <selsta> https://localmonero.co
22:22:48 <micah> hi, i made a watch-only wallet, but it doesn't see the spends and weirdly it seems to have received a transaction that my non-watchonly wallet does not see, even though we are caught up to the latest block
22:24:00 <selsta> watch only sees only incoming transactions
22:24:04 <selsta> and it also sees your change
22:24:55 <micah> ok, so maybe the transaction it saw was my change
22:25:13 <selsta> yep
22:25:14 <micah> there is no way to also see outgoing transactions?
22:25:58 <selsta> https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/1698/can-the-import-export-key-images-command-can-be-used-to-check-the-balance-of-a-p
22:30:25 <micah> what is import/export key images?
22:31:01 <micah> is that a way that when I spend from the 'hot' wallet, I'd export something to give to the cold wallet, so it knew what happened?
22:35:45 <selsta> AFAIK yes.
22:38:30 <pigeons> names #monero
22:43:33 <micah> hm, ok... i guess that kind of defeats the purpose of how I was using the watch-only wallet
22:46:05 <ndorf> micah: `export_key_images` command on the spending wallet, then `import_key_images` on the view one
22:50:36 <micah> so you cannot  make a watch wallet that only sees outgoing?
22:52:04 <ndorf> not as far as i know