02:09:24 <newyearday> when i do mginfo("trace"); on runtime code error i have only "trace" output
02:09:43 <newyearday> how to have real output about what is happening
02:11:47 <moneromooo> Assuming you mean MGINFO, you get the file and line in the log.
02:12:54 <newyearday> on monero log i saw the first runtime error so i put a trace there but only "Trace" output nothing else
02:13:00 <newyearday> yes MGINFO
02:16:50 <moneromooo> In the log ? It should omit coder type info on stdout, but not in the log (unless you monkeyed with the log format, but I doubt you did).
02:17:29 <newyearday> u can c here http://paste.debian.net/1138999/ that line that bring the error is ss << tx_blob;
02:17:40 <moneromooo> The log file. Which is ~/.bitmonero/bitmonero.log or wherever monero-wallet-cli is.
02:29:27 <newyearday> http://paste.debian.net/1139000/
02:29:33 <newyearday> this is the output
02:38:58 <newyearday> here is full output http://paste.debian.net/1139001/
02:45:22 <newyearday> what to insert for having more info about what is happening
02:45:57 <newyearday> i tried to debug but really i dont know how to find runtime error reason
02:52:37 <newyearday> moneromooo are u here
02:57:18 <newyearday> any one here?
03:06:34 <newyearday> moneromooo what to do?
03:17:44 <onosovereign[m]> So how does the room feel about physical wallets are the worth getting at this point?
03:42:58 <mfed3[m]> Hey guys do you know what the link to Tari channel is?
03:58:16 <niocbrrrrrr> #tari  #tari-dev
04:43:55 <gingeropolous> jwinterm, u fuckin clicked it?
04:44:13 <gingeropolous> i coulnd't bring myself to do it
04:44:20 <gingeropolous> thank you for going bravely forward
04:44:37 <gingeropolous> and holy shit, have people been watching picard?
04:44:55 <gingeropolous> i mean, TNG was great for the ethical conundrums but daaaamn
05:42:47 <UkoeHB_> the robots are pretty disappointing
07:51:36 <joiajsodjad> Hi. I have a problem with ledger/monero-cli. The first and last ~10 symbols of some addresses I want to sent to don't match the address displayed on my ledger.
07:52:10 <joiajsodjad> When I confirm the transfer it sends to the address displayed in monero-cli, so I don't know if it's a problem with monero-cli or the ledger app
07:52:54 <joiajsodjad> If anyone else wants to try, it consistently happens with the addresses that morphtoken use
09:02:06 <selsta> joiajsodjad: Are you sending to an integrated address?
09:02:59 <selsta> If the address is 106 characters long it is an integrated address.
09:08:00 <joiajsodjad> selsta: Yes. An address like this: 4CaLQAveWB1YzzhX4Z8EVDKzeCjkXMejH6CrccFuu1BKQxJ1pbDxr8W6YqrKh3jYWccJjnFkYRPgiWWk5WR8erLG8ZTshkcX2Wj5b68AT4
09:08:25 <joiajsodjad> It worked fine with the subaddresses I generated with monero-cli 15.0.5
09:09:08 <selsta> Integrated addresses are an encoding scheme for base address + payment id
09:09:22 <selsta> the Ledger simply displays the base address, that's why the difference
09:09:41 <joiajsodjad> Oh, okay. How can I verify that the address is right?
09:10:31 <selsta> you can type into cli: `integrated_address 4JozWNgQB7G9oP8c44W78UQkAP1Y16UmkPEDzZN21HwmVK1neZV6aX7C3yvhJ4rbUgaV6UGMfZoYpBwW4M71nyWp9LWMbH36jfCUXihCiy`
09:10:47 <selsta> and then it will show you the base address (which should be equal to the ledger one) and the payment id
09:11:03 <joiajsodjad> Thank you
09:11:10 <selsta> are you using the latest ledger monero app?
09:11:17 <selsta> I thought they already fixed this...
09:11:18 <joiajsodjad> Yes
09:11:20 <selsta> but maybe not
09:11:25 <selsta> anyway it is just a visual thing
09:12:12 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: *send 0.01337 4JozWNgQB7G9oP8c44W78UQkAP1Y16UmkPEDzZN21HwmVK1neZV6aX7C3yvhJ4rbUgaV6UGMfZoYpBwW4M71nyWp9LWMbH36jfCUXihCiy
09:12:23 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: *send 0.01337 4JozWNgQB7G9oP8c44W78UQkAP1Y16UmkPEDzZN21HwmVK1neZV6aX7C3yvhJ4rbUgaV6UGMfZoYpBwW4M71nyWp9LWMbH36jfCUXihCiy
09:12:47 <joiajsodjad> The app version is 1.4.2
09:13:09 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: *send 4JozWNgQB7G9oP8c44W78UQkAP1Y16UmkPEDzZN21HwmVK1neZV6aX7C3yvhJ4rbUgaV6UGMfZoYpBwW4M71nyWp9LWMbH36jfCUXihCiy 0.01337
09:13:12 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: uh
09:13:19 <selsta> joiajsodjad: there is a new version available
09:13:20 <selsta> 1.5 or so
09:13:31 <selsta> might be fixed in this version, might not
09:14:29 <selsta> Kayla did you send coins? lol
09:14:38 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: didnt work, sowry
09:14:48 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: @Hooftly fix plez, why no work
09:50:58 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Nvidia_Jetson_Nano#2505>: *sendall 4JozWNgQB7G9oP8c44W78UQkAP1Y16UmkPEDzZN21HwmVK1neZV6aX7C3yvhJ4rbUgaV6UGMfZoYpBwW4M71nyWp9LWMbH36jfCUXihCiy
09:51:27 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: still no work, sowry about that
10:02:59 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rR4n-0KYeKQ
14:33:56 <jwinterm> gingeropolous, I fucking clicked it
14:34:08 <jwinterm> lemme know if you would like description
16:02:10 <VexToR> You are invited to attend a lecture and chat with Dr Gamme Martin @ irc.butt.es #GAMME | https://imgur.com/a/zrcoB8P
17:02:28 <hugozar> Hello, I have so many questions...Recently started mining, have a geforce GT610 lying around the house. Currently mining with an i7 which makes about 2.5KH/sec running puppy linux off a USB drive. I'm also a capitalist so that is of course not enough. When mining on the i7 using windows the same machine makes less than half the hashes.
17:03:27 <hugozar> Also, the windows shows the screen image via the GT610 but xmrig can't find it.
17:03:57 <hugozar> How does one get the GT610 to help making hashes? Is it too old?
17:13:50 <asymptotically> i don't think any mining applications will support your GT610. even if you find one that does, it probably won't be worth your time
17:14:01 <asymptotically> it's not really worth mining on GPU
22:05:38 <newyearday> what is vout length on genesis?
22:37:18 <jtgrassie> jwinterm: the hardcoded block time is the Monero block time of 2 minutes. The config retarget time is how often you would like to send work to miners.
22:38:21 <newyearday> hello
22:39:57 <yanmaani> hey
22:40:34 <yanmaani> Does Monero have some slightly longer-form forum than IRC?
22:40:52 <newyearday> what do u mean with longer
22:40:54 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: like what?
22:41:00 <jwinterm> ya we figured it out jtgrassie, thanks
22:41:08 <jwinterm> someone trying to repurpose it to wownero
22:41:08 <yanmaani> Like a normal forum or such
22:41:19 <yanmaani> So, I have an idea I'd like to discuss - making block sizes floating
22:41:25 <yanmaani> kind of like VBR in music encoding
22:41:35 <derpy_bridge> <[discord] Kayla#5718>: reddit, discord, keybase, irc
22:41:47 <jwinterm> yanmaani, most very long form discussions are done as github issues
22:42:06 <jwinterm> historically, with sidebars on reddit, irc, and maybe long ago bitcointalk
22:42:07 <yanmaani> instead of saying, "blocks are 2MB", you say "the target block size is 2MB". Every time a block is below this, you get some scrip, and you can use it to temporarily push the size above the limit.
22:42:23 <jwinterm> monero has a dynamic block size already tho
22:42:26 <jwinterm> if you weren't aware
22:42:29 <yanmaani> Kayla#5718 jwinterm: Thanks.
22:42:39 <yanmaani> That's only dynamic with respect to the long-term, no?
22:43:00 <jwinterm> yes and no
22:43:12 <yanmaani> It fluctuates, sort of like the difficulty. This idea is orthogonal; it would allow for block sizes to be bigger during peak hours and smaller during off-peak hours
22:43:14 <jwinterm> you can make a block above the limit anytime, with a block reward penalty
22:43:34 <jwinterm> but if blocks are close to the limit for a while, then the limit will drift up
22:43:35 <yanmaani> as well as, for example, having huge blocks during christmas or whatever.
22:43:46 <yanmaani> But small blocks have no incentive to get made, right?
22:43:57 <yanmaani> Except for the fact that the fees have to dwarf the block reward.
22:44:12 <jwinterm> anytime there's enough money in fees in the mempool, it can become more economical to take the block penalty reward to include more tx fees
22:44:41 <jwinterm> well, if there's tx fees making it economical to take some block reward penalty, that will also have the effect of pushing the limit up faster
22:44:49 <jwinterm> afair
22:44:58 <yanmaani> Yeah, but the fees have to be above a certain limit. There's no incentive to make small blocks, right?
22:45:10 <jwinterm> #monero-research-lab channel might have some people more intimate with details
22:45:21 <yanmaani> If the limit is 2MB and there's some extremely low-rent transactions, you might as well add them no?
22:45:27 <jwinterm> right
22:45:36 <yanmaani> Thanks, that's what I was looking for
22:45:44 <jwinterm> np
22:45:48 <yanmaani> Yeah, so that's the difference here - in this model, such 'holes' could be saved for later
23:25:09 <newyearday> when i do MGINFO("trace"); i have even in logs only "trace" output nothing else
23:26:50 <newyearday> im searching for runtime error reason