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nonie
(-(-_(-_-)_-)-)
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nonie
Does anyone happen to know the maximum number of possible accounts for monero?
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azy
realistically, i think it might come down to the maximum the wallet can handle
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nonie
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nonie
What is the maximum id number i can call here?
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nonie
Or maybe I just limit it to 10 digit. Should be sufficient - until it is not.
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azy
did you link the right call? that just returns the amount of blocks in the chain
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nonie
But i have to pass the id.
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nonie
id = account
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moneromooo
If by accounts you mean number of subaddress-accounts, 2^32. If number of possible secret keys, around 2^252.
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azy
nah theres no inputs for get_height, id = 0 always i think, that's returned by the rpc, not input by the coder
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moneromooo
Height can in theory go to 2^64.
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azy
is there a way to load a specific subaddress index yet? i still have 0.05 in some stupid number
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moneromooo
10 decimal digits for height should be enough for ~ 38 thousand years.
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nonie
Good to know
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moneromooo
No.
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moneromooo
I'll add that to my list.
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mujo
Hello, is there a common issues page? I've started the GUI and it's stuck at "2020-02-21 14:14:46.505 I Synced 1017016/2038490 (49%, 1021474 left)
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mujo
2020-02-21 14:14:46.507 I [batch] DB resize needed"
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moneromooo
What's the output of "status" and "sync_info" ? Paste on some paste site, not here.
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moneromooo
Otherwise, monero.stackexchange.com has a number of these questions, though some do tend to become obsolete with time.
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moneromooo
(those are daemon commands, I think you can enter daemon commands somewhere in the settings)
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nonie
That was a false assumption on my part. The id != account. »assumption« is the mother of all fuck ups.
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moneromooo
Good thing my mother's not named Assumption. I dodged a bullet there.
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nonie
XD
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: I saw your post on Reddit
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yanmaani
did you consider using the BitTorrent network for this?
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yanmaani
so, you send out pings to random IPs - just UDP packets. Can be done async. Then, you establish a connection to the network from whatever comes back.
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hyc
yes, but we need bittorrent nodes to cooperate.
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yanmaani
Then you ask the DHT to find 'seeds' for the 'torrent' with 'info hash' sha1("monero")
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yanmaani
hyc: no
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yanmaani
you can just insert random stuff into the DHT
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yanmaani
the key can be any arbitrary bitstring of 160 bits, the value is fixed to be the IP of the sender
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yanmaani
C implementations of kademlia DHT are pretty tiny too
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moneromooo
Does this impair bittorrent as a whole (beyond extra traffic) ?
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yanmaani
and bitcoin DHT is big
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yanmaani
moneromooo: no, I don't see how it would
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yanmaani
it impairs IPv4 somewhat to send out UDP packets to random IPs but it's not very much
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moneromooo
Do you not see despite knowing well enough to know if it would ?
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hyc
I'm sure someone would get annoyed that we were leeching on them
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yanmaani
but your load on the network is negligible
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yanmaani
hyc: You're not leeching, you're inserting into the DHT
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yanmaani
moneromooo: I do not see how it would impair bittorrent.
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asymptotically
aren't you just moving the problem? you need DNS seeds to bootstrap your connection to the bittorrent dht
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yanmaani
the algorithm is as such: depending on your IP you are responsible for a certain subset of keys. To insert, find nodes at that IP and tell them you want to insert
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hyc
indeed
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yanmaani
asymptotically: not really
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yanmaani
the BitTorrent DHT is bigger
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moneromooo
That's what you said before. I'm asking whether you do not see how it would because you do not know much about it, or because you know enough to tell with reasonable certainty that it would not.
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yanmaani
quoth reddit post:
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yanmaani
"Surprisingly, the numbers aren't that bad. For a network size of bitcoin, for instance, you only need to randomly scan like 5k IP addresses to statistically find an IP address running a bitcoin node"
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asymptotically
yanmaani: ah you meant it will make the random bruteforce faster?
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yanmaani
BitTorrent DHT is much bigger
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yanmaani
yes
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hyc
there's going to be a storage cost for bittorrent nodes to record these entries
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yanmaani
in Bitcoin you need to open 2^32/N TCP connections
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yanmaani
in BitTorrent you need to "open" 2^32/M UDP "connections"
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hyc
if all of bitcoin and monero started advertising their nodes this way
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yanmaani
hyc: yes, but it's tiny
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yanmaani
they are stored in RAM
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sech1
I already proposed the exact same idea a couple of months back (to bootstrap from bittorrent DHT network)
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sech1
there are literally millions of active DHT peers
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hyc
sech1 what happened to the suggestion?
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sech1
hyc it didn't go anywhere
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moneromooo
sech1: and you, do you know enough about it to tell whether it'd impair the bittorrent network ?
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sech1
negligible
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moneromooo
By impair, I mean annoy enough for them to want to do something about it.
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sech1
a few hundred nodes would store 160-bit hash with bootstrap data for Monero
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sech1
it's just another torrent hash for them
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moneromooo
Should I read "you know enough to be reasonably certain the impairment would be negligible" ?
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sech1
and they only store it in RAM, not even on disk
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hyc
.... how do we control the volume of data that gets injected?
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sech1
moneromooo yes
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moneromooo
Thanks.
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sech1
I did quite a bit of development for torrent sites back in 2000's
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hyc
if we just add this feature, 100% of monero nodes start advertising themselves to the bittorrent network
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sech1
not that I'm proud of it, lol
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yanmaani
a downside is that you don't know the port for DHT
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yanmaani
moneromooo: I don't think you need to worry, it's sort of officially supported
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yanmaani
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hyc
because the idea is to get away from centralized node management. thus there is nothing to distinguish a "seed" node from any other node.
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moneromooo
Sounds good (that page's blocked though).
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yanmaani
hyc: If you're really worried, you can ramp it up gradually
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hyc
how do we do that?
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yanmaani
on each start, generate a random number mod 100
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yanmaani
if number is below N, announce to dht
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yanmaani
vary N with each version
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yanmaani
that said I don't think it's anywhere near a problem. How many Monero nodes are there even? 10k?
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moneromooo
sech1: I recall a discussion about this. Did it die off due to nobody doing anything, or was there a roadblock ?
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sech1
no roadblocks, discussion just stopped
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sech1
My proposal was to just have a single unique 160-bit hash for all Monero nodes
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sech1
then they would find all peers with this hash in DHT
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sech1
and their IPs
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sech1
and then connect to IP:18080
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sech1
so it's literally just one additional hash in DHT
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yanmaani
A good idea could be to try and get the Bitcoin community on board - they presumably have the same issue
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hyc
if this is actually an intended use of the DHT, it all sounds good
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yanmaani
hyc: it has an extension to store arbitrary data
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moneromooo
Added to my list. I know close to nothing about bittorrent though, so if anyone wants to run with it, feel free ^_^
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hyc
I used to work on rtorrent. another C++ codebase I hated.
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yanmaani
One problem I can see with this is that the chaos of the DHT works against us.
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yanmaani
in Bitcoin/Monero, all nodes listen on a certain port
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yanmaani
in BitTorrent, they vary it due to ISP detection efforts
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sech1
DHT is battle tested against multiple shutdown/block attempts
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hyc
so if we have to poll random IP addresses *and* ports, that makes it a bit harder
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sech1
all those anti-piracy battles
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yanmaani
hyc: Right. But we have a bit of respite in that not all clients use random ports.
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sech1
hyc you can just connect to any popular torrent tracker, get the most popular torrent hash from there, and then ask tracker for the list of peers
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sech1
90% of these peers will be DHT enabled
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yanmaani
predictable_port*total_bittorrent might be greater than total_monero
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hyc
sech1: that brings us back to square 1
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yanmaani
sech1: right but then you could just ask the tracker for the monero hash
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yanmaani
and then you could just run your own tracker
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yanmaani
and then you have re-invented the seed node
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hyc
exactly. square 1. we don't want that.
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sech1
I'm talking about chicken-egg problem
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yanmaani
if so a better solution could be to ship a file of a few thousand known DHT/Monero nodes with each release
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sech1
how to find the first peer to connect to
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hyc
the chicken-egg problem is what seed nodes are for, which we are trying to eliminate.
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yanmaani
1 ipv4 addr + port is 6 bytes, so 256k would enable you to ship 44k nodes
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hyc
That is a lot of data for us to manage between releases
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hyc
I prefer the IP multicast solution. we just decide on a multicast group ID, send a UDP packet to the mcast group, and talk to all the nodes that respond.
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sech1
multicast doesn't work on Internet
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hyc
adoption will follow demand.
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yanmaani
hyc: is it? Isn't the monero package several hundred mb?
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hyc
every IPv6 router has support for it
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yanmaani
win64 installer is 82.1mb
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hyc
most IPv4 routers by now should too
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hyc
yanmaani: 44k IP addresses would be a PITA to administer
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yanmaani
would it? Just run a script that scrapes the DHT a few times and spits out random nodes
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sech1
hyc why? Just scan the Internet for Monero nodes before each release and update the file
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asymptotically
rip deterministic builds
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yanmaani
data quality can be complete garbage, even if just 1% are good that's fine
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yanmaani
asymptotically: you could put it in the git tree.
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yanmaani
ugly yes? but deterministic af
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yanmaani
So you start off with the DHT, then query all the nodes for their friends and build a list of a few hundred thousand. Then you query them repeatedly to check uptime. The most robust and well-connected nodes make it into the source tree
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hyc
this is still not a hands-off solution. it is fundamentally the same as administering seednodes
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yanmaani
yes although there is no server running that can disappear
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yanmaani
and even with high attrition rates probably some of the nodes will be running years from now
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asymptotically
but if we're going to embed a big blob of thousands of ips into a release, why not just embed the addresses of monero nodes?
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sech1
yep, just scan them all: "On a computer with a gigabit connection, ZMap can scan the entire public IPv4 address space in under 45 minutes."
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yanmaani
yeah so why not do that? that sounds pretty reasonable actually
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yanmaani
OK, so I did some ad-hoc research. ~15% of nodes use port 6881, which should be good enough.
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yanmaani
so round this to 10% and using 10 million from Wikipedia we have 1 million nodes => need to query 4300 nodes
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sech1
So only 4300 UDP packets, barely an inconvenience
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gingeropolous
is this still a random brute force? or is there still an IP list?
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asymptotically
would distributing a peerlist bin on getmonero.org along with the blockchain dump not be an easy solution? then nobody gets upset about large files being in git, or by thousands of packets being blasted everywhere
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asymptotically
then anyone that wanted to use it over dns seeds could just start monerod with something like --go-away-dns --import-peerlist ./peers.bin
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gingeropolous
thats the same problem, just repackaged
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asymptotically
but people are probably already going to be there to download the daemon to begin with
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gingeropolous
i mean, yeah true. but designing for 100% perfect conditions is a bit......... well, its not how I think things should be done for monero. If we were building a new p2p farmville sure
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gingeropolous
i mean, we need solutions for the scenario where the monero project has been attacked, all of its resources are dead. Monero source code is floating around on torrents and random websites, and you may have even gotten yours from a friend on a USB stick. The training wheels are off.
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asymptotically
your friend can put a peerlist onto the memory stick, or he can give you the address of his node
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gingeropolous
yeah, true.
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: Random bruteforce
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LatitudeSnowbird
shitting up random hosts trying to find peers is questionable
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gingeropolous
bittorent using random ports isn't a problem?
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yanmaani
see above
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yanmaani
about 15% use port 6881
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yanmaani
LatitudeSnowbird: it's not really shitting up though. We are talking about a message <100b which will probably get filtered by firewall
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gingeropolous
well agreed, its questionable. But if you don't have functioning seed system, and your don't have any friends that have peer lists... how do you connect to the network
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yanmaani
the only issue I see with this is that it relies on ipv4
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gingeropolous
its a measure of last resort. When things are fine, sure, monerod will use the seeding system. But when things aren't fine... well, we need something.
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yanmaani
which, if we are going to be honest with each other, will never ever die
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gingeropolous
i got lost in multicast a bit... something about ipv6 has it native something something?
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yanmaani
agreed. A simple solution might be to cascade. So it first tries regular bootstrap, then bittorrent bootstrap, then brute-force
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yanmaani
I don't think it's that big a problem anyway. The adversarial conditions you outline already exist
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yanmaani
there's a P2P network in Japan called Perfect Dark. For obvious reasons, they can't run seed nodes.
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yanmaani
What do you do? Well you look around on forums or whatever for a nodelist to import.
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yanmaani
boom, done
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yanmaani
Monero could do this with Tor easily as an option of last resort.
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asymptotically
gingeropolous: if you don't have any friends that use monero, who's going to send monero to you, or who are you going to send monero to?
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LatitudeSnowbird
fwiw even bittorrent with dht uses a centralized node to bootstrap :)
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yanmaani
asymptotically: random people on the internet?
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asymptotically
yanmaani: yeah :D and you can peer with those random people or ask them for their peer list
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yanmaani
right
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yanmaani
if shtf, the most likely scenario is that people run some sort of onion site where you could download monero, or ship a peerlist with the torrents
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LatitudeSnowbird
or if you are really desperate to find peers, masscan/zmap goes a long way
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yanmaani
sure but in the case that monero is outlawed you may have a hard time finding any clearnet nodes
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selsta
I think we shouldn’t over engineer a solution unless it is noticeably better than the current seed nodes.
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yanmaani
the not over-engineered solution is to add a box in the UI "bootstrap from arbitrary node or load list from file"
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yanmaani
although there is something sort of clean with doing away with the seednodes
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gingeropolous
selsta, can you define better? Because in terms of decentralization, i'd argue anything is better than seed nodes
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selsta
Anything?
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gingeropolous
i mean they are kinda de-facto centralized.
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gingeropolous
but no not anything. elephant transport, for instance, not a good solution
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selsta
Would using the bittorrent network, which also relies on seed nodes be decentralized?
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gingeropolous
i dunno. im neither here nor there on that solution. it sounds like kicking the can to someone else kinda.
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gingeropolous
if indeed they use seed nodes, then its effectively relying on some other decentralized network that uses a centralized bootstrapping mechanism
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selsta
What would happen if a node connects to a malicious node through a decentralized seed node system?
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gingeropolous
which is probably why i came up with the trans peer thing. because if all of the p2p networks worked together, we'd all eat lollipops and drink butter beer
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gingeropolous
i dunno. what would happen if a node connects to a compromised seed node?
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Mochi101
The p2p thing sounds awesome gingeropolous... and I literally was on the edge of my seat.
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Mochi101
Like... really exited.
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gingeropolous
presumably witha decentralized system, you could compare multiple
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gingeropolous
i.e., you could portscan for 1 open port.
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gingeropolous
and then keep scanning for another one
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selsta
I think compromised seed nodes are way more unlikely than in a decentralized system which you can easily sybil attack.
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gingeropolous
you could timeout on some number, and then use what you';ve got
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Mochi101
Bob sounds like such an fun guy too.
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selsta
But like I said I don’t know how serious something like this would be.
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yanmaani
selsta: The BitTorrent network does not rely on seed nodes.
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yanmaani
It is possible to use a tracker instead, or pre-existing nodes. If all the seed nodes were shut down tomorrow it would still work
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selsta
Same for Monero.
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gingeropolous
well yeah thats just a built in peer list
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gingeropolous
right?
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yanmaani
Yes, but you can bootstrap using the pre-existing BT DHT
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yanmaani
You can't bootstrap with the Monero network
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yanmaani
or well you can but it'll take a lot of packets
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gingeropolous
right, because the entire peer list isn't stored as a DHT
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yanmaani
No, not because of that.
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yanmaani
Even if the Monero network is alive and kicking, I can't join it without a seed node.
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yanmaani
But the alive-and-kicking-ness does not strictly depend on the existence of seed nodes.
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selsta
What is the difference between a seed node and a normal node in Monero?
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yanmaani
The BitTorrent network can be joined without a seed node by brute-force, and even if the seed nodes die it can still keep working.
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selsta
Apart from that seed nodes are hardcoded.
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yanmaani
none
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yanmaani
(the BitTorrent network can find nodes from other sources than hardcoded dht seeds)
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gingeropolous
by scanning?
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yanmaani
no, not only
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yanmaani
so the ways you get into the Mainline DHT is
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milkt
i heard that using remote node with monero-wallet-cli can reduce privacy, but does security remain in same level?, or does using remote node reduce security about my wallet or fund?
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yanmaani
1) talk to a router (hardcoded seed node)
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yanmaani
2) talk to any of your peers from whom you are downloading torrents
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yanmaani
and you can get peers by PEX, DHT, or tracker
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yanmaani
PEX is when you ask your peers for more peers, not applicable
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yanmaani
but trackers are another mechanism. Trackers are distributed within torrent files.
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yanmaani
3) Torrent files may contain DHT node hints
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yanmaani
so it's incredibly antifragile in this way
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yanmaani
we don't trust that the BitTorrent network's seed nodes keep working, just that the DHT network does
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gingeropolous
but 2 and 3 sound like you've already connected to the torrent network....?
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selsta
What is the difference between specifying a node IP address in Monero and specifying a torrent file?
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selsta
Both seem like manual work.
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: no, trackers are run by random people
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yanmaani
and included in torrent files
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moneromooo
It reduces the security. Can't steal outright though.
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yanmaani
selsta: You download torrents anyway, so it's 'free'
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selsta
Do I?
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gingeropolous
ok. so basically, the way torrent really does this is that their..... thing of value.. is a separate file that you can get outside of the network
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moneromooo
And I remember this discussion from when sech1 was talking about it. I think someone also claimed trackers arne't seed nodes too.
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yanmaani
If you don't have DHT nodes, but you download a torrent, that contains some (random) DHT nodes to get started.
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moneromooo
In the end, we wrked out it was basically the same.
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: It's one of their solutions yes.
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gingeropolous
so you download a torrent from the internet
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yanmaani
corret
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gingeropolous
so basically other people self host something that has seeders
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yanmaani
you search for 'linux ISOs' on site A, get a torrent file (basically a file hash), ask the tracker/DHT for peers
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: no it's segregated. Torrents are just a few k, adn the bittorrent network doesn't do indexing
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milkt
moneromooo: can you explain bit more about how much does using remote node reduce security
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moneromooo
The stranger's node can feed you fake blocks. If it knows your address, it can make it look like you got some money. But you did not.
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moneromooo
It can DoS you (claim there are no blocks, when there are).
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selsta
Adding the bittorrent network into this sounds like over engineering if the difference in the end is googling "linux iso" or "monero node ip"
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gingeropolous
milkt, and also keep in mind you should be concerned about untrusted nodes, ran by random people
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selsta
instead*
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gingeropolous
you can have your own remote node, and there are minimal implications for that
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gingeropolous
but those can all be covered by proper opsec (encrypted channels with the tubes etc)
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gingeropolous
tunnels, tubes, and channels oh my!
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moneromooo
And bananas.
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Quotes
peanut butter jelly time!
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moneromooo
Or bananae... ?
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milkt
i'm running own node currently, but disk space running out soon
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gingeropolous
clearly its bananananananananananas
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milkt
i'm wondering about what is worse case scenario which can happen when i'm using remote node
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moneromooo
Ah yes. Clearly plural.
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gingeropolous
milkt, if its your remote node, the worst case scenario is that...... it gets hacked and then somehow messes with yah
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moneromooo
The worst case... Your ISP confuses monero traffic for child porn traffic, the police bashes your door in and "accidentally" shoot you.
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gingeropolous
but thats the same with your own node at home
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milkt
eh i mean about worst case about my wallet and fund mostly
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selsta
milkt: You can prune your node.
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milkt
privacy is not a concern now
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moneromooo
Worst case in pratice is "it doesn't work".
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gingeropolous
yeah you should just prune milkt
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milkt
i'm considering pruning as well
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gingeropolous
can get it down to 25 GB. though i still don't know if that works in place, like with an existing file
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moneromooo
To prune an existing db, you need an extra ~25 GB temporarily.
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gingeropolous
see that makes the brain hurt
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milkt
so there is possibility that my transaction can be rejected, or getting false block information when using remote node?
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gingeropolous
when im running out of space i rarely have 25 GB of extra space
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moneromooo
Yes.
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gingeropolous
in fact I'd probably most likely nuke the existing db and resync from the network with pruning enabled
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milkt
so malicious remote node can reject or give false information, but can't modify transaction or consume my fund, is it correct?
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gingeropolous
correct
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milkt
thank you
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gingeropolous
so is there anything shareable about the monero network that people would want to host for downloads
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moneromooo
Binaries and gitian signatures.
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moneromooo
I was gonna say "and instructions to check", but that kinda defeats the purpose since an attacker would put wrong instructions :/
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Mochi101
Pictures of fluffypony
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moneromooo
You don't mean... *those*... pictures ?
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hyc
weren't those pictures erased when ETH rolled back?
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gingeropolous
i was gonna say "lets put an IP address in the XMR address!" but then privacy
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hyc
this is the big problem I see with the "ping 2^32 address" approach as well. makes your own node stick out like a sore thumb
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hyc
but perhaps that doesn't matter if we're already justing using plaintext connections
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Mochi101
It's a difficult problem.
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Mochi101
How about we all agree to write node ip addresses in the bathroom stalls whenever we use a public restroom?
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gingeropolous
now thats a protocol
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Mochi101
I can see the news headlines already.
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Mochi101
"Monero Gives P2P a New Meaning"
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gingeropolous
lol
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moneromooo
I'll rename to monerolooo if it helps.
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hyc
LOL
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Mochi101
hahahaha
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Mochi101
nice
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gingeropolous
it could be a new mandate for all monero sticker makers
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hyc
secure and private - like a restroom
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gingeropolous
always include an ip address on your stickers
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gingeropolous
else, you are part of the problem
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gingeropolous
same with shirt makers
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gingeropolous
any merch!
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gingeropolous
merch without IP is blasphemy!
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gingeropolous
although still targetable
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hyc
On IPv4 it would have made sense to use a single multicast group as a directory of all participating P2P protocols
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hyc
since the address space is kinda limited there. every node of every P2P project would participate; broadcast its own existence and maintain a small table of everything it hears.
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hyc
i.e., it only needs to keep a few records for each protocol, and can keep a list of as many protocols as it wants to save space for
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moneromooo
OTOH, thanks to bitcoin's success, we now have a huge number of dross p2p shite spamming everything...
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hyc
on IPv6 their approach won't work any more
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hyc
but multicast will
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hyc
too bad there are no competent network protocol guys in Bitcoin
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gingeropolous
yeah randomly searching through ipv6?
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moneromooo
They don't ? If not, it won't be long before one gets interested and joins.
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gingeropolous
well they built fibre
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gingeropolous
but thats different
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hyc
a competent protocol guy post-2008 would have kept IPv6 in mind for any solutions they built
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hyc
hell, bitcoin itself could have had enough critical mass to make internet-wide multicast adoption happen
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hyc
bittorrent has critical mass, but too much piracy associated with it
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moneromooo
Make it well in monero, then try to get bitcoin to use it :D
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hyc
just like CT? :P
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moneromooo
Yeah, works both ways.
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gingeropolous
yeah lookin forward to the librecast response
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hyc
Brett @ librecast is a friend of mine, we've talked about this before
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gingeropolous
ah. does he want a pet project to showcase the tech? :) :) :)
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hyc
I suspect he does. the last time we talked, nobody in monero was talking about seed discovery
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hyc
maybe now's the right time
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hyc
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hyc
kind of what I was afraid of. currently need to tunnel if intervening network isn't mcast-enabled
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hyc
so for now - lol - you need seed multicast routers
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yanmaani
gingeropolous: That's pretty much an analogue of how BitTorrent does it
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yanmaani
it's not that silly, as you could always use an onion, but it's fundamentally ugly and brittle
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kinghat
was there a talk about librecast on FOSDEM this year?
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kinghat
scanning the youtubes
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hyc
yes
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hyc
I think librecast itself was only a lightning talk
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hyc
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kinghat
ah tyvm hyc 🙏 havent been on the reddits for a min.
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kinghat
oo they even linked the linux.conf talk:
youtube.com/watch?v=IO2_b8EeJws
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azizLIGHT
hmmm, how do i enable mining via the wallet? i followed all iterations of the wallet command but i get error
paste.ubuntu.com/p/M8BVHzkm2K
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asymptotically
azizLIGHT: try start_mining 4 true
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azizLIGHT
ah ok, thank you
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azizLIGHT
that worked, just wasnt sure what argument it had aproblem with