07:20:13 <newyearday> hello
07:20:57 <derpy_bridge> [discord] <Kayla#5718>: hewwo o/
07:51:17 <rehrar> Monero is the Monero of kings.
10:02:38 <Excedrin> hi, I sent a transaction that shows up in the gui as "Pending" and "Waiting for transaction to leave txpool", and 0/10 confirmations, but my balance in this wallet doesn't reflect this transaction at all. I ran flush_txpool in the daemon, is this transaction going to go thru? If it doesn't that's fine.
10:14:24 <newyearday> hello
10:19:12 <newyearday> how to start transfer on new chain
10:19:25 <newyearday> i have always "No outputs found, or daemon is not ready"
10:19:56 <newyearday> is ok if i create fake outputs and insert on ring?
10:31:54 <newyearday> anyone here?
10:36:16 <charolastra> yes, but i don't know an answer to your problem
10:36:52 <newyearday> thnx anyway
10:37:17 <charolastra> also i think the ppl in the US are just waking up so check back in a few hours
10:37:48 <newyearday> yep
11:17:01 <synthable[m]> Are there any safe remote nodes to use?
11:18:05 <selsta> Your own node is safe.
11:28:34 <dEBRUYNE> Excedrin: Is it still stuck on pending?
11:37:11 <synthable[m]> If I can't run a nice atm are there verified safe remotes ones to use?
11:39:30 <selsta> You will still have to trust someone. You can e.g. use node.xmr.to:18081 which is run by a core team member.
11:40:02 <selsta> Or try node.supportxmr.com:18081
11:40:48 <synthable[m]> Perfect, node.xmr.to should be fine for now.  Thanks
13:09:40 <Inge-> binance xmr withdrawals disabled at the moment.
13:10:22 <asymptotically> Inge-: did they say why?
13:11:53 <Inge-> "Wallet Maintenance, Withdrawal Suspended"
13:14:41 <mmxxx[m]> Still don't know why people trust binance
13:14:59 <mmxxx[m]> Is their 'dex' working yet?
13:50:44 <newyearday> when i try to transfer on new chain i have always "No outputs found, or daemon is not ready" hardfork v1
13:51:49 <newyearday> even after mining some blocks same thing
14:11:54 <newyearday> anyone here?
14:30:28 <mmxxx[m]> <newyearday "anyone here?"> Sure
14:31:23 <newyearday> when i try to transfer on new chain i have always "No outputs found, or daemon is not ready" hardfork v1
14:31:46 <selsta> I don’t think people here are familiar with forking Monero.
14:32:11 <newyearday> they know the inside
14:33:27 <newyearday> so they can answer is just matter of will
14:39:34 <keatonofthedrake> might have better luck within the #monero-dev channel?
14:40:43 <newyearday> same people there too so difficult
14:41:49 <hyc> we're here to build Monero, not to help forks
14:42:14 <hyc> if you want to fork a coin, you ought to be a skillful enough developer to do it without anyone else's help.
14:42:28 <hyc> because you're going to be running the end result without anyone else's help
14:43:11 <selsta> there are so many monero forks, I think they can explain better what they did
14:43:29 <gingeropolous> yep
14:43:50 <moneromooo> keatonofthedrake: gah, don't
14:43:56 <gingeropolous> step 1. steal the underpants
14:43:59 <gingeropolous> step 2.
14:44:04 <gingeropolous> step 3. profit
14:44:36 <charolastra> step 2 is obviously sell them online
14:48:37 <newyearday> what gave birth of monero and all this crypto stuff
14:48:48 <newyearday> the idea of open source
14:48:56 <newyearday> help for free!
14:49:02 <selsta> that’s not what open source means
14:49:15 <moneromooo> Monero from Bytecoin. Bytecoin from Bitcoin. Bitcoin from Bitgold, hashcash.
14:49:16 <newyearday> means this too
14:49:40 <newyearday> monero from opensource
14:49:53 <moneromooo> That's one of the big misunderstandings of open source. Open source means "if I want to change the software, I can".
14:50:08 <newyearday> not only!
14:50:09 <selsta> Open source does not entitle you to free help. It’s possible that people will help you, but don’t expect it.
14:50:25 <moneromooo> It does not mean "someone who alreayd gave me their software has to also spend their time heeping me".
14:50:41 <newyearday> yes i agree
14:51:05 <newyearday> but u understand that i have some knowledge not as u but i have
14:51:43 <newyearday> so u are not giving smth for free because im not 0 level user
14:51:47 <moneromooo> The latest question you asked is a clear case of "debug it".
14:51:51 <newyearday> some one that just want to steal
14:52:38 <moneromooo> You know how to debug software, right ?
14:52:44 <newyearday> yes i know
14:52:50 <moneromooo> Then start doing it.
14:53:14 <moneromooo> Print logs, put breakpoints, whatever you usually use.
14:53:35 <newyearday> ok your answer is better than the others
14:53:53 <moneromooo> If the software prints an error message, log the value of stuff that causes it to print it. Then deduce what went wrong, or where is the previous place to repeat.
14:53:54 <newyearday> asymptotically where are u
14:54:06 <moneromooo> Yes, but it is nothing related to monero.
14:55:05 <newyearday> im joking asymptotically is generally very tough with me
14:55:24 <newyearday> is the last one that im expecting help...
15:00:06 <keatonofthedrake> transaction pool has been looking pretty healthy lately
15:00:28 <keatonofthedrake> guess it coincides with price increase
15:04:15 <newyearday> back
18:21:51 <Excedrin> dEBRUYNE: yeah, it shows up in the gui wallet but nowhere else
18:23:50 <yanmaani> Just out of curiosity, are there any XMR futures traded against either USD or Bitcoin?
18:23:55 <yanmaani> (not USDT)
18:24:41 <asymptotically> i think bitmex had xmr/btc futures, but they got suspended a few years ago
18:26:05 <Inge-> there are still xmrusdlongs and -shorts on tradingview
18:27:19 <dEBRUYNE> Excedrin: Can you have a look at this guide? https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/6649/transaction-stuck-as-pending-in-the-gui
18:27:58 <Inge-> any info on binance wallet maintenance? someone said it was going on day 4 now
18:28:11 <Inge-> binance xmr wallet*
18:39:38 <yanmaani> BitMEX used to have them, but they delisted them
18:41:07 <Excedrin> great, thanks
18:47:08 <Mochi101> Inge-, ask them on Twitter?
18:58:31 <Freneticks> Hey guys, I would like to create a new security crypto-service, could apply to CCS ?
18:59:32 <selsta> what is a security crypto service?
19:01:53 <Freneticks> a web service who's secure
19:03:32 <hyc> secure in what way? against what threats?
19:04:13 <hyc> To save some time - if you don't already have a track record of well written code contributed to this community, you're unluck to get support for any CCS you propose
19:04:20 <hyc> s/unluck/unlikely/
19:08:34 <Freneticks> Of course, but I just wanted to know if CCS is only to code for monero core project, or to fund external project that bound to monero economy
19:16:02 <moneromooo> It's been used for peripheral stuff, but the more peripheral stuff goes through, the more we'll get vultures and scammers try it, so there needs to be some kind of line.
19:17:25 <moneromooo> The worst are those people who really have something that's unrelated to monero and try to squint hard to find a monero angle.
19:22:11 <yanmaani> MC = MR ;)
20:53:51 <Freneticks> moneromooo: Strongly agree
21:13:50 <binaryFate> Freneticks have a look at https://ccs.getmonero.org/what-is-ccs
21:28:36 <Inge-> https://www.reddit.com/r/binance/comments/f2g1t0/monero_xmr_wallet_maintenance/
21:34:52 <asymptotically> Inge-: how is it not in their control? :s
21:35:12 <Inge-> good question.
21:35:16 <Inge-> And why was the post deleted?
21:44:42 <Freneticks> maybe backend team separate from frontend team, things like that, but it's weird
21:46:28 <selsta> they seem to delete all posts
21:46:44 <selsta> nothing Monero related
21:46:57 <ndorf> i miss binance
22:43:15 <rehrar> can someone just launch another third-party CCS where people can get their random projects funded?
22:43:29 <rehrar> And that would leave core team CCS for Monero related things only.
22:55:20 <kinghat> would be nice. couldnt they just use a crypto focused one thats already around?
22:58:59 <rehrar> kinghat: doesn't really exist, and xiphon made the CCS so it supports Bitcoin derivatives as well as Monero.
23:02:38 <kinghat> there isnt a crypto focused patreon/gofundme thing? seems like low hanging fruit. especially for all the things they dont allow for funding on those platforms.
23:07:25 <asymptotically> rehrar: someone should make an FFS for asking for funding for creating a new general FFS
23:08:29 <rehrar> lol :P
23:08:35 <rehrar> it's all ready to go. Open source.
23:08:40 <rehrar> someone just needs to deploy
23:08:58 <asymptotically> that doesn't have enough billable hours in it
23:09:19 <kinghat> bilbo hours
23:39:09 <selsta> rehrar: The CCS is not open source :P
23:39:27 <rehrar> selsta: wat?
23:39:32 <selsta> It’s missing a license.
23:39:51 <rehrar> ah true. Well as a person who has copyright I won't be suing
23:40:08 <rehrar> but I need to get a license on that, yes
23:41:04 <ndorf> rehrar: http://www.wtfpl.net/about/ ;)
23:41:52 <rehrar> I'm thinking of writing a Diego license
23:42:07 <rehrar> you can do whatever you want with it, but you need to include "Hail Diego" somewhere in the source code.
23:42:33 <ndorf> sounds more or less like BSD 3-clause
23:42:39 <ndorf> less obnoxious, even
23:42:57 <ndorf> ("Hail Diego" being a lot more concise than several paragraphs of all-caps text)
23:43:23 <rehrar> think it would pass the standard the various FOSS foundations have for a truly open source license?
23:43:35 <moneromooo> No.
23:43:44 <moneromooo> Oh. Wait. Open source, sure.
23:44:01 <moneromooo> Not free doftware though.
23:45:02 <moneromooo> Amusingly, there was something similar with the GNU free doc licence and their immutable sections part.
23:46:15 <moneromooo> Actually, thinking about it, I think I'm wrong: you could include "Hail Diego" in the copyright blurb, and require all modifications/redistribution of the source to include the copyright notice verbatim, like BSD...
23:46:54 <moneromooo> Since BSD is accepted, then yours should be. Then it becomes a game of finding how much payload you can get away with...