05:56:50 <cannon-c[m]> <selsta "cannon-c: Are you using the GUI?"> Using CLI client. And what is difference between wallet password and device passphrase? Why do i need wallet password if have passphrase? thanks
06:01:41 <cannon-c[m]> talking about trezor with monero wallet
07:14:09 <cannon-c[m]> and why it not recgonize trezor? Error: failed to generate new wallet: Device connect failed
10:04:29 <selsta> cannon-c[m]: Wallet password is for your local wallet and passphrase is a Trezor thing.
10:05:27 <selsta> Try restarting your PC is it can’t connect to the Trezor. Also make sure it is unlocked.
16:36:51 <cannon-c[m]> yes
16:37:32 <cannon-c[m]> Thanks selsta but already tried restarting bot the computer and the daemon and wallet multiple times and trezor was unlocked
16:37:42 <cannon-c[m]> using cli wallet
16:39:54 <cannon-c[m]> anyone ever have luck with trezor T and cli wallet both trezor t and monero wallet on latest version?
16:40:07 <cannon-c[m]> or supported only on gui?
16:44:33 <cannon-c[m]> and lsusb shows it as detected by the OS
16:55:23 <selsta> cannon-c[m]: Did you compile with Trezor support?
17:04:36 <cannon-c[m]> I did not compile
17:04:59 <cannon-c[m]> does it not have hardware wallet support by default? I need to compile it to include trezor support?
17:05:53 <cannon-c[m]> I used the cli version since it is reproducible build
17:29:32 <dEBRUYNE> cannon-c[m]: Trezor support should be included by default in the release binaries
17:42:30 <cannon-c[m]> hmmm  ok thanks for that
17:42:52 <cannon-c[m]> I am using a Fedora AppVM in Qubes with Trezor usb pass through to the Monero AppVM
17:43:18 <cannon-c[m]> I dont think it is a qubes issue though. i'll have to troubleshoot further
20:04:25 <selsta> cannon-c[m]: You said Trezor works with GUI, is the GUI running in the same VM?
20:07:52 <moneromooo> If you're building with prebuilt binaries, I remember some binaries (at least one) got built without support for some hw wallet, can't recall which.
20:08:03 <moneromooo> s/building with/running/
20:10:08 <selsta> Yep v0.15.0.1 GUI was without support but v0.15.0.2 fixed that.
21:36:50 <cannon-c[m]> Yep that is probably it. I am using 0.15.0.1 not .2
21:37:09 <cannon-c[m]> since .1 is latest pre-compiled binary. I might just have to  build .2 myself for Trezor support
21:37:25 <cannon-c[m]> the gitian builds on github only go up to 0.15.0.1
21:37:45 <cannon-c[m]>  * the listed gitian builds on github only go up to 0.15.0.1
21:39:40 <selsta> cannon-c[m]: no, I was talking about the GUI.
21:39:58 <cannon-c[m]> for cli Trezor support I need to use .2 though right?
21:39:59 <selsta> CLI v0.15.0.1 should have Trezor support.
21:40:08 <cannon-c[m]> or should .1 support trezor for cli?
21:40:16 <cannon-c[m]> hmm ok
21:44:14 <selsta> cannon-c[m]: Can you try on your host OS?
21:45:00 <cannon-c[m]> I do not have a host OS
21:45:12 <selsta> host machine without VMs
21:45:20 <cannon-c[m]> well, I mean I cannot do that since it is dom0
21:45:39 <selsta> ah ok
21:45:42 <cannon-c[m]> I think I'll try on maybe TAILS to see what happens
21:45:51 <cannon-c[m]> without virtualization
21:45:58 <selsta> Trezor works for me with v0.15.0.1 CLI on macOS.
21:46:06 <selsta> don’t have a linux machine to test
21:46:42 <selsta> Did you install CLI from getmonero.org or did you use your package manager?
21:46:54 <cannon-c[m]> getmonero.org
21:47:00 <selsta> ok should be correct
21:47:05 <cannon-c[m]> then verified the signatures against the gitian asserts
21:47:42 <selsta> what command did you use to generate your wallet?
21:47:59 <selsta> did you use the `--hw-device Trezor` flag?
21:48:13 <cannon-c[m]> yes
21:48:34 <selsta> ok
21:48:47 <selsta> it seems to be compiled with Trezor support else a different error message would show up
21:49:01 <selsta> does wallet.trezor.io recognise your Trezor?
21:49:10 <selsta> Did you initialize it there?
21:51:46 <cannon-c[m]> I could see if recgonized by my local bitcoin wallet
21:53:37 <cannon-c[m]> testing now
21:57:23 <cannon-c[m]> detected by Electrum in another AppVM
21:58:07 <cannon-c[m]> Firmware 2.2.0 firmware Trezor T. Not the bitcoin only firmware, regular firmware
21:58:56 <cannon-c[m]> I know Monero AppVM is Fedora based, my bitcoin AppVM is debian based. I think I'll test Trezor on debian environment see if that makes any difference
21:59:30 <selsta> cannon-c[m]: Can you install Trezor bridge?
21:59:59 <cannon-c[m]> I'll figure this out
22:00:40 <cannon-c[m]> I can post what I find, if anything maybe update documentation if needed if it would help others
22:01:12 <cannon-c[m]> if extra things like trezor bridge is needed
22:01:45 <cannon-c[m]> I have done IT support in the past, and good at root cause analysis
22:01:59 <selsta> ok thanks
22:17:52 <cannon-c[m]> lol I just figured it out
22:18:17 <cannon-c[m]> lets update documentation if needed
22:18:20 <cannon-c[m]> https://wiki.trezor.io/Udev_rules
22:18:25 <cannon-c[m]> works flawlessly now
22:18:35 <cannon-c[m]> this is needed for linux OSes
22:18:41 <cannon-c[m]>  * this is needed for linux
22:24:02 <moneromooo> Feel free to send a patch adding whatever is necessary (or just a link to the information) to the README.md once it's all figured out.
22:26:15 <cannon-c[m]> i dont have a git hub account
22:29:12 <moneromooo> If you make a patch and paste it to fpaste.org or so, I can PR it in your name, just add your preferred author info in the patch.
22:34:18 <cannon-c[m]> I might actually have a git account, I'll address it later on today
22:34:22 <cannon-c[m]> I'll take care of it
22:34:36 <moneromooo> Thanks
22:34:53 <cannon-c[m]> unless someone else beats me to it, I really dont care as long as it gets updated to help other people out
22:47:31 <selsta> I thought udev was only for Ledger. Good to know.