03:01:30 <kinghat> https://hackaday.com/2020/01/30/this-is-it-for-the-particle-mesh-network/
03:37:41 <gingeropolous> all in all the clock is slow.....
11:06:20 <xmrmatterbridge> <midipoet> dEBRUYNE: are you a Man City fan? I am a Villa fan ;-) we will be meeting soon \o/
11:30:35 <Inge-> Villa!
14:29:35 <nonie> Are accounts a useful feature? I am just thinking about how I could represent accounts in a directory structure. See https://pastebin.com/NEYCM6pz
14:30:02 <nonie> In this case symbolic links are used for account labels.
14:31:34 <nonie> e.G: cat account/invoice/balance
14:32:24 <nonie> alternative to cat account/1/balance
14:33:45 <nonie> On the other hand - ignoreing »accounts« would keep it simple.
14:35:48 <nonie> !mnp If you have no idea what i am talking about - this link might help.
14:35:48 <qoopbot> nonie: http://mnp4i54qnixz336alilggo4zkxgf35oj7kodkli2as4q6gpvvy5lxrad.onion
14:38:11 <nonie> Does anyone here use accounts and for what reason?
14:52:06 <nonie> Another link: https://medium.com/@anhdres/how-moneros-accounts-and-subaddresses-work-in-monerujo-4fa7df0a58e4
14:59:52 <nonie> *Hmmm, »Accounts« seem pretty cool afterall. Thanks for listening.
15:16:50 <veikko> https://blog.kraken.com/post/3662/kraken-identifies-critical-flaw-in-trezor-hardware-wallets/
15:33:20 <nioc> veikko: thx
15:35:53 <cassepipe> Hi everyone. How private is running a node and synchronising the BC ?
15:39:02 <moneromooo> About 34.8
15:39:26 <asymptotically> i'd just round that to 35 privates
15:42:30 <cassepipe> asymptotically: Does not seem like much
15:44:13 <cassepipe> Is is like torrenting ? Do I connect to a server that gives a list of peers to connect to ?
15:44:17 <asymptotically> cassepipe: people like your ISP and the people running your network can tell that you are running a monero node
15:45:05 <cassepipe> asymptotically: That's what I thought. How come my ISP knows ?
15:45:45 <asymptotically> because they are carrying all of the monero blocks to you :D. you can hide it with tor, but then your isp will see that you are using tor instead
15:45:51 <asymptotically> which you can possibly hide with a bridge and obfsproxy
15:46:38 <cassepipe> Right, but how do they know those are monero blocks ?
15:47:06 <cassepipe> Is there not something like a basic encryption ? TLS ? Https ?
15:47:21 <moneromooo> Not between nodes. Only between wallet and node.
15:47:54 <asymptotically> even if it was encrypted, they might be able to make a good guess based on who you are connecting to
15:47:57 <moneromooo> Even if there was, there's no decoy traffic, so it'd be fairly easy to see a correleation between traffic and monero blocks being found.
15:48:16 <gingeropolous> 34.8
15:48:20 <gingeropolous> lol
15:48:27 <moneromooo> The node does not know your keys btw. If that's what you meant by "how private".
15:49:11 <cassepipe> moneromooo: I was worried about that, just if my ISP was able to know I was running a node which ... it does
15:49:16 <cassepipe> Thanks
15:49:32 <gingeropolous> your isp knows your using IRC as well!
15:49:39 <asymptotically> cassepipe: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/blob/master/ANONYMITY_NETWORKS.md might be a good read
15:49:52 <cassepipe> gingeropolous: I know...
15:50:06 <cassepipe> asymptotically: Thank you
15:52:02 <gingeropolous> it almost like we need an alternative to ISPs.... hrmmmmm
15:52:31 <moneromooo> We need an alternative to so many things...
15:59:40 <Mochi101> yeap
16:02:26 <Mochi101> You can encrypt all your IRC message though.
16:02:33 <Mochi101> It looks something like this.
16:02:44 <Mochi101> hlfs0#fsffCSUUGfgfssf#%%UHFhfhjfs2@
16:02:56 <Mochi101> So it's not really helpful.
16:04:49 <Mochi101> Tough audience today.
16:20:30 <cassepipe> Mochi101: :)
18:19:52 <gingeropolous> yah know, computers (via linux) are like a musical instrument. there are so many different ways to play it
18:21:49 <gingeropolous> man. so.... not ironic. but something. So excited to get a real CD of a band i've been listening to on youtube... wanted the full on sound quality possible. and all of my CD players so far don't work.
18:55:21 <fort3hlulz> Please for the love of all that is holy share with Bitcoin people that the Schnorr/Taproot BIPs do NOTHING for privacy.
18:55:35 <fort3hlulz> https://twitter.com/pwuille/status/1221478264071307264?s=20
18:55:49 <fort3hlulz> This isn't even about pumping bags
18:56:04 <fort3hlulz> The amount of misinformation around these changes as the fix for all Bitcoin privacy issues is insane
18:56:31 <fort3hlulz> The ONLY thing that helps privacy is that CoinJoin gets slightly cheaper
18:56:38 <fort3hlulz> But heuristically remains the same
19:05:32 <gingeropolous> dude bitcoins private enough
19:05:41 <gingeropolous> its got like psuedononuynnmeity
19:05:53 <gingeropolous> everythings_fine.gif
19:06:45 <moneromooo> Like your ISP is private enough. And then you find your browser full of ads the website you're on didn't even put it.
19:13:25 <fort3hlulz> 0.0
19:13:46 <fort3hlulz> Just look at your "off Facebook" data and tell me pseudonymity is sufficient :P
19:51:47 <asymptotically> fort3hlulz: "off Facebook" data?
20:00:11 <Merlin_> who cares about privacy its just internet money
20:01:21 <gingeropolous> *magic* internet money Merlin_ ! don't forget that!
20:01:32 <asymptotically> grrr i dont care about that! when does it make me a billionare?
20:01:43 <Merlin_> gingeropolous: my favorite kind
20:01:45 <gingeropolous> tuesday
20:02:31 <moneromooo> The seventeenth tuesday of 2086 at 4:56 PM to be exact.
20:03:34 <Merlin_> the date of our 11th halving
22:34:23 <kiwi_44> Hi guys, i have a question concerning a 51% attack. I know that the longest chain always wins. But what happens if a 51% attack succeeds and the double spend chain is the longest chain. Are all nodes now forced on the protocol level to accept the new chain and delete the old one or do they save the old original chain as well?