08:54:47 <qoopbot> Title: About supply auditability
08:54:47 <qoopbot> Link: https://getmonero.org/2020/01/17/auditability.html
10:58:11 <asymptotically> is getmonero.org down for anyone else? i just get the message "error code: 1010"
10:58:28 <asymptotically> ah, apex domain is borked but www. is ok
11:38:53 <Guest85959> Asymptotically: The website just got updated. Could be a temporary issue related to that
11:39:43 <asymptotically> ErCiccione[m]: yep looks like it, working fine for just getmonero.org now :)
14:27:03 <raivavae83> hello
14:32:29 <asymptotically> hi raivavae83
15:16:25 <mapuche> hi
15:17:24 <gingeropolous> mapuche, hello
15:28:25 <agnfab[m]> Hi
19:08:26 <mapuche> hello
19:08:50 <lza_menace[m]> hello
19:08:50 <rottensox> wazzuppp.
19:08:50 <Quotes> biicoonneeeeeee
19:08:54 <rottensox> lol.
22:35:32 <stargatesg5> is there a way to prune xmr address to fit into 80 bytes? maybe remove checksums?
22:38:02 <stargatesg5> afaik it's 95 bytes but I'm working on an alias scheme. so far would need 2 btc transactions to fit xmr address into op_return or could put address onto ipfs
22:40:33 <stargatesg5> oh maybe it's less bytes in base58 nvm
22:45:17 <asymptotically> stargatesg5: you can fit it in 64 bytes. 32 for the public spend key, and 32 for the public view key
22:45:42 <asymptotically> see https://xmr.llcoins.net/addresstests.html for a little explanation
22:46:23 <stargatesg5> yeah, I facepalmed when I realized I don't need to use the entire utf8 space ><
22:48:54 <stargatesg5> I'm getting 70 bytes with basic address. Looks like I'll have to read the link :)
22:53:32 <stargatesg5> 69 bytes for address, 1 byte (network) prunable, 32 bytes spendkey keep, 32 bytes viewkey keep, 4 bytes checksum prunable. I guess have to figure out how to do checksum myself or now that it fits into op_return 80 bytes don't really need to. neat
22:53:57 <stargatesg5> I wonder why I get 70 bytes with this node code: const bs58 = require('bs58');
22:56:13 <asymptotically> hmmm i would have thought that you'd get 69 bytes
22:56:34 <asymptotically> can you compare against the output on the website above?
23:03:16 <stargatesg5> yeah it's weird, extra byte and different hex... not good lol
23:03:18 <stargatesg5> https://repl.it/repls/ReflectingOvalMarkuplanguage
23:03:35 <stargatesg5> is base58 encoding same as bitcoin?
23:04:32 <asymptotically> nope. the monero base58 encoding happens in blocks
23:04:58 <stargatesg5> oh. interesting. same characters though?
23:05:48 <stargatesg5> as long as I can recover the real xmr address again from byte data, no big deal
23:05:59 <asymptotically> view-source on that page and have a look at base58.js :D
23:06:04 <asymptotically> and yes i think that the alphabet is the same
23:07:18 <asymptotically> don't use the bitcoin one, bad things might happen
23:07:48 <stargatesg5> ok, i'll check out the base58 library just to be safe
23:09:17 <stargatesg5> oh you meant js file on xmr site. i wonder if I can use that directly
23:14:21 <stargatesg5> I don't really understand licensing in software and If i'm allowed to copy/paste that js file if I cite where it's from
23:21:02 <asymptotically> if software has no license at all, you can't do anything (all rights reserved). the license is what gives you permission to do things
23:21:03 <stargatesg5> nvm found a library, gonna skip the source and should be good then. thanks again. https://www.npmjs.com/package/@xmr-core/xmr-b58
23:21:24 <stargatesg5> ah haha. never knew that
23:21:27 <asymptotically> was just about to link that. i think it's the same, that they both come from mymonero
23:22:54 <stargatesg5> thanks again, might've helped me avoid a gotcha moment there, didn't see anything wrong with 10 addresses I tried with bitcoin encoding but you never know.
23:23:50 <stargatesg5> working on name system on bitcoin, very early stages, just fake satoshi alias at the moment on testnet to show https://ildarmgt.github.io/BitcoinNameSystem/#/id/satoshi
23:24:55 <stargatesg5> xmr addresses compatibility would be nice way to give aliases that don't reveal your spending patterns publicly
23:27:51 <asymptotically> you can do stealth addresses with btc too
23:27:57 <stargatesg5> yeah bip47
23:28:00 <stargatesg5> already know those fit
23:29:32 <asymptotically> ah i was thinking of something else called sx (i think)
23:30:27 <asymptotically> https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Sx/Stealth&oldid=43757
23:30:31 <stargatesg5> ah interesting. I know samourai has the paynym thing that uses bip47 payment codes. the padding of 0's at end helps fit them for now. I'll look into sx
23:30:42 <asymptotically> it's dead, so don't look into it too hard :(
23:31:49 <stargatesg5> it looks very similar with a secret and notification requirement of 47, but it's a bit complex hence only 1 wallet support atm