07:41:12 hello 07:57:27 hello 08:14:31 im trying to start new fork but when hardfork version is chnaged from 1 to 12 i have always "has old version" message 08:15:19 so is possible to start with latest change only by changing hardfork version ? 10:57:29

Hello, 10:57:29

Probably a silly question, so apologies in advance. 10:57:31

Is it possible to write **messages** in the monero blockchain ? I didn't see anything close to that, but maybe I didn't search enough. 10:57:32

I have seen the ability to prove payments with viewkeys, but that concerns only payment exhibition. 10:57:33

It would be very interesting to be able to exhibit messages with viewkeys also. 10:57:34

Thanks 11:00:57 no, it's not possible 11:01:50 txs with messages would be a security risk 11:03:28 can't you put whatever you want in tx_extra? 11:11:33 asymptotically, isn't tx_extra just local? 11:12:09 there's a description local to your wallet. tx_extra field is part of the transaction, it's where the payment id goes too 11:12:39 that's how \x wrote nice messages to us, he put them as the unencrypted payment id and they showed up in the block explorer in tx_extra 11:21:40 hmmm 11:24:52

Thanks both for your answers. 11:24:53

Is it possible to write tx_extra thru the GUI ? or it's only available via the CLI or RPC ? 11:26:14

Thanks both for your answers. 🙏 11:26:15

Is it possible to write tx_extra thru the GUI ? or it's only available via the CLI or RPC ? 11:30:16 Unencrypted payment ids are no longer possible 11:56:00

I imagine that there were reasons to remove such message abilities. 11:56:01

But it seems me that this is a serious lack for the monero ecosystem. 11:56:02

If I manage a website or onionsite dedicated to monero services and/or with monero payment, it would be nice to be able to have the validation parts also doable with the monero blockchain. If this is to be done with eg the bitcoin blockchain ... that hurts a bit 😟 11:56:35 xmr-romine: what're you trying to do? 11:57:32 You can create an address with an encrypted payment id for every tx or you can create a sub-address for each tx so that you can keep track of what they're used for. 11:59:03 So if someone orders something from you, you create a sub-address and store it with the order details in your db. When a payment comes in you look in your db to match it up with the order that uses the sub-address for the payment. 12:00:09

Mochi101 : for example, I have an onion site, and some onion page I want to publicly validate. So my idea was eg to do a hash a the page, and to write it publicly in the monero blockchain. 12:00:10

But of course, there may be other/better way to do that. 12:00:45 yes... I wanted to implement something similar myself... it's not possible 12:00:55

Mochi101 : for example, I have an onion site, and some onion page I want to publicly validate. So my idea was eg to do a hash of the page, and to write it publicly in the monero blockchain. 12:00:56

But of course, there may be other/better way to do that. 12:01:58

I'm 100% of with sub-addresses use for payments. That's indeed very convenient. Thanks to the devs ! 12:03:42

Maybe something is doable by using the small digits of the payment field. Not a lot of bytes, but better than nothing. 12:03:48 it's probably best to use something designed for it, like opentimestamps 12:04:16 as for stuffing your own things in the tx's extra field, i think you're still allowed but i'd guess you have to make the transaction yourself 12:04:28 instead of using cli/gui/rpc wallet 12:06:17

asymptotically , Thanks, could you suggest some doc about making transaction oneself ? 12:07:14

I'm 100% ok with sub-addresses use for payments. That's indeed very convenient. Thanks to the devs ! 12:08:28 3rd party stuff isn't very convenient... :( 12:09:05 But Monero has its goals, so it's understandable. 12:10:21

Lunch time. I'll be afk. Thanks so much for the discussion ! 12:11:40 asymptotically, Minko did 10 years of hashes to verify the integrity of the game just before payment IDs were made obsolete: https://minko.to/static/media/hashes.7d175b13.txt 12:12:07 Now this is no longer possible. 12:12:07 10 years of hashes for a game that is a couple of years old? 12:12:31 ohhh, hashes they will use as seeds in the future? 12:12:47 hashes of the seeds yes 12:13:16 xmr-romine: https://talaca.in/monero-dev/20191230 12:17:02 hmmm 12:22:42 hello 12:25:44 where bl.major_version is decided 12:25:50 in which part of code 12:42:39 anyone here 13:06:47 Hey 13:06:49 so uh 13:07:03 I recently recovered my wallet with the word keys 13:07:10 im using monero-wallet-gui 13:07:31 and essentially the problem I have is: The wallet is synced but my balance is 0.0 13:07:42 and there is no transaction histoir 13:14:41 Search the options for something called "refresh height" or similar. If its value is later than when you received your first monero, reset it to < that (0 is always ok, but slower) and rescan. 13:37:33 moneromooo: going to try that now, thanks! 18:33:05 !list 18:33:06 nonie: list mnp verify torrent 18:33:06 nonie: list mnp verify torrent 18:33:33 !torrent 18:33:34 nonie: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2fa0ac731b9e483c2534a9fcf1e3312f39dd7a76&dn=monero-all-v0.15.0.1&tr=http0x0p+00.0000000.000000tracker.opentrackr.org0x0p+013370.000000announce 18:33:34 nonie: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2fa0ac731b9e483c2534a9fcf1e3312f39dd7a76&dn=monero-all-v0.15.0.1&tr=http0x0p+00.0000000.000000tracker.opentrackr.org0x0p+013370.000000announce 18:37:11 !list 18:38:50 !listz 18:38:52 !list 18:38:52 nonie: list mnp verify torrent 18:38:56 !verify 18:38:56 nonie: gpg --verify hashes.txt && head -n-13 hashes.txt | tail -n+9 | sed -e '/^$/d' -e 's/^$.*$,$.*$$/\2 \1/g' | sha256sum -c - 18:39:44 !mnp 18:39:44 nonie: http://mnp4i54qnixz336alilggo4zkxgf35oj7kodkli2as4q6gpvvy5lxrad.onion