03:56:16 <riceandbeans> Do you have to have a wallet unlocked to know what the balance of the address would be?
03:56:29 <riceandbeans> I would think that since the ledger has to say who was paid what that logically you would not.
03:57:20 <rottensox> usually you unlock before seeing balances and txs., sir.
03:57:22 <riceandbeans> In an effort to nix the X Y argument, I want to write something to check my wallet balance and based on current rate of XMR tell me what I would have in USD periodically.
03:58:09 <riceandbeans> I understand you'd usually unlock in order to use it, I just kind of want to be able to write something to know what I currently have in XMR and what it would potentially be in USD in an automated fashion
03:58:24 <rottensox> .shrug
03:58:29 <riceandbeans> :\ ok
04:04:00 <riceandbeans> Hmm, Well, after in the past few minutes I wrote Rust to call on minexmr api to get what my address mined, was paid out, and what the rate is by api.cryptonator.com, and since I'm currently only mining with that one spot it would be the only means by which the address would be funded, so while it's not the most accurate in the sense that someone could have paid me something else, I can track what
04:04:06 <riceandbeans> I've made by way of mining alone
04:06:08 <riceandbeans> I'll call that a suitable v1 for my xmr net worth :P
04:07:50 <rottensox> riceandbeans: makes sense, but first you were talking about wallets solely and now you're talking about mining payouts.
04:08:07 <rottensox> in that scenario i'd presume achieving what you were looking for is somewhat plausible indeed.
04:10:50 <riceandbeans> rottensox: Sure, but it's not accurate
04:10:54 <SleepingShell> riceandbeans: Forgive me if I missed part of the conversation, but you must have your wallet unlocked in order to view your balance. This is because your view key is used to determine if funds are destined for you (and btw, amounts in transactions on Monero are encrypted). If you want, you can export your private view key to monitor if transactions are destined for you. This allows you to monitor
04:10:55 <SleepingShell> transactions while keeping your spending key safe.
04:11:12 <riceandbeans> If I've made any txs in or out, outside of the mining pool, then the value is entirely inaccurate.
04:11:23 <riceandbeans> I mean, as of now I have not, but the potential exists
04:12:09 <riceandbeans> I mean, I'm basically just writing something in Rust to run on my own system and drop me a line periodically and let me know what I have
04:12:44 <riceandbeans> I have similar stuff with my banks except that they just have things where if my balance is above n dollars email balance and I use it to lazily not log in as often and know I'm good for stuff
04:30:46 <SleepingShell> So export private view key
04:59:00 <riceandbeans> I know this isn't about monero, but it's crypto, and does this sound super shady or legit? https://blockfi.com/
06:11:29 <rottensox> riceandbeans: those people are legitimate. they sponsor a couple well-known bitcoin podcasts.
06:11:59 <rottensox> lending and borrowing cryptocurrencies is somewhat legitimate. there's others like that...
08:11:14 <syntax[m]> To what extent is Monero supported on Trezor hardware wallets? I have the official Monero desktop wallet and would love to move funds to Trezor but not sure how I'd do it...
08:13:00 <rottensox> syntax[m]: https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=trezor%20model%20t%20monero%20how%20to%20us
08:13:42 <syntax[m]> Thanks
08:20:36 <syntax[m]> This made sense up until: "You can now send your moneroj using Monero GUI wallet." ...isn't the point to be able to send/receive through the Trezor wallet interface (wallet.trezor.io)?
08:22:42 <Jae> Hi fellow monero users
08:23:27 <syntax[m]> Hi Jae
08:23:37 <Jae> How are you?
08:23:55 <rottensox> syntax[m]: sir?
08:23:59 <rottensox> do you know how to read?
08:24:05 <rottensox> https://wiki.trezor.io/Monero_(XMR)
08:24:10 <rottensox> Firmware (device) support 	Trezor Model T 2.0.8
08:24:10 <rottensox> Available in Trezor Wallet? 	No
08:24:10 <rottensox> Third-party wallets 	Monero-Wallet-cli
08:24:17 <syntax[m]> Stuck in horrendous traffic on a bus, but apart from that fine thanks. Yourself?
08:24:31 <rottensox> you can optionally hold off until kastelo is delivered.
08:24:37 <rottensox> heard of kastelo before?
08:25:09 <Jae> Good
08:25:22 <syntax[m]> Meow
08:25:43 <Jae> :3
08:33:33 <selsta> syntax[m]: The GUI supports Trezor, the webwallet does not.
08:34:47 <syntax[m]> OK thanks for the simple answer.
08:35:32 <syntax[m]> Kastelo will be great. Is there any estimated time on first version? Doesn't appear to be much info about it.
08:37:47 <rottensox> syntax[m]: Dev kit is almost ready...
08:38:04 <rottensox> hardware workgroup gave about a month or so to make the first dev kits available.
10:13:00 <fruitoshisnakamo> guys could I ask a linux question I cannot get into the linux chan
10:14:44 <fruitoshisnakamo> its a security question if unique linux installs get uniqe ID-tagged somehow upon install... it would be a great security feature for interpol...
10:21:27 <asymptotically> fruitoshisnakamo: i think that if you use systemd, you get an /etc/machine-id file
10:23:34 <fruitoshisnakamo> yes but don't you suspect there might be some built in mechanism that sends this data to a database log of installs, with a unique tag from that install that traces all actions online? Not sure if you catch me. So I suppose external actors could do that but I mean curious if an install could be traced regarding future actions based on some machine-id file as you say That's SO dodgy, it really is, but Interpol would need a huge
10:23:34 <fruitoshisnakamo> database center to set that to get any blips on their radar for nefarious activity
10:23:48 <fruitoshisnakamo> I'm not a programmer so please take what I say with a pinch of salt.
10:24:31 <fruitoshisnakamo> I mean the IP address of the install. So that actions from that install if nefarious, are later traced from a log...
10:24:41 <rottensox> fruitoshisnakamo: commonly that unique id does not give you enough data to trace all your moves.
10:24:46 <fruitoshisnakamo> That could be nasty-powerful for surveillance agents
10:24:46 <rottensox> you are getting way too paranoid...
10:24:53 <fruitoshisnakamo> HAHA that's a good word. paranoid
10:25:01 <rottensox> :)
10:25:04 <fruitoshisnakamo> <3
10:25:12 <rottensox> go back to your cave and make sure to wrap yourself in tinfoil paper.
10:25:28 <rottensox> otherwise even your inhaling and exhaling is getting sent back to a three-lettered agency.
10:27:08 <asymptotically> fruitoshisnakamo: it doesn't get sent anywhere on the network. the manual even advises against it
10:27:48 <asymptotically> some debian based distros have a system called popcon to see which packages you install (ubuntu has it enabled by default) which you could maybe use to see something like
10:27:54 <asymptotically> this ip address has downloaded the tor package, or the monero package
10:30:05 <charolastra> "security feature for interpol" ... are you payed by them?
10:30:25 <rottensox> dear teacher, you misspelled paid.
10:30:32 <asymptotically> i get paid sweet interpolcoins for telling them everything about you guys
10:30:42 <rottensox> shaddap asymptotically.
10:30:44 <rottensox> back to leddit.
10:30:48 <asymptotically> :{
10:31:44 <charolastra> rottensox: you don't correct a teacher or else you get the rod, again
10:31:53 <fruitoshisnakamo> rottensox, LMAO!
10:32:54 <fruitoshisnakamo> No, Charolastra, I am not
10:33:17 <fruitoshisnakamo> HAHAH, Asymptotically, that's so cute. IPOLcoin <3 great idea
10:33:28 <fruitoshisnakamo> You can start an IPO :p
10:33:37 <fruitoshisnakamo> leddit? tfw?
10:33:49 <rottensox> replace the l for an r, pleb.
10:33:54 <rottensox> how old are you? 54?
10:45:53 <fruitoshisnakamo> Did you have elemons for breakfast srsly
10:46:19 <rottensox> yes, lemons with salt.
11:02:19 <fruitoshisnakamo> why rottensox what have you against socks?
11:04:03 <rottensox> fruitoshisnakamo: i'm just a dick.
11:04:14 <fruitoshisnakamo> im a pussy
11:04:19 <rottensox> i needed a nickname that went with my dickerish personality.
11:04:29 <rottensox> great. hope you take care of it.
11:04:39 <fruitoshisnakamo> yeah i like my pussy shaved :p
11:05:02 <rottensox> cool story Frank from New York.
11:27:07 <fruitoshisnakamo> so does fluffypony ever make donations to the indigents who skirt through his lobby?
11:27:28 <fluffypony> only on days ending in the letter y
11:31:25 <fruitoshisnakamo> :p Did you know fluffypony that J and X are the only letters excluded as initials in the books of Tolkien I had actually inferred it at some stage and looking at a list to my surprise found it to be true.
11:32:36 <fruitoshisnakamo> 45hdj67QA9zhqoucSTDFtcbkk31R52En5cLgXUPpKQwkGh29aubTaWr48rzt5ZeTtQ4FfbgcU7ZoQDPU2pSgmiyLTt616oC   <-could anyone donate plz t.y.
11:32:53 <binaryFate> fruitoshisnakamo do not beg in this channel plz, thank you
11:33:00 <fruitoshisnakamo> alms alms! I just yeah I wanted to apologise lol
11:38:49 <fruitoshisnakamo> do not donate to that address lol!
11:51:58 <LSDog> fruitoshisnakamo sent nudes hoe
14:08:15 <Bill48105> what up
17:05:17 <f8e3> is this leggit?> https://moneroaddress.org/
17:06:15 <gingeropolous> yep. straight from the cow: https://github.com/moneromooo-monero/monero-wallet-generator/
17:06:35 <selsta> You can check the signature :)
17:06:53 <gingeropolous> why you'd wanna do anything in a browser though is beyond me
17:10:20 <fort3hlulz> Hadn't seen this posted here, but great AMA going on: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/emq3hv/ama_im_nopara73_i_wrote_65_of_the_code_of_wasabi/
18:35:56 <newyearday> hello
18:52:48 <fort3hlulz> hey newyearday :)
19:22:28 <kiwi_83> Hello, how to speed up the sync time of the Monero daemon ?
19:23:41 <selsta> use an SSD
19:23:45 <fort3hlulz> ^
19:23:50 <fort3hlulz> Thats the biggest change you can make
19:38:21 <kinghat> all around life change
20:06:13 <gingeropolous> huzzah! stupid job scheduler wanted a local environment stupid stupid
20:06:34 <gingeropolous> not just an SSD, get an NVME hyperX blastface ssd
20:14:37 <kiwi_83> Okay, somehow I messed something up I guess
20:15:59 <kiwi_83> I started to download with a raspberry pi and it took really long: 3 hours: 11% sync time - Now I started to use a MacBook and it is after 5 minutes at 3%
20:16:14 <kiwi_83> Why the big time difference ?
20:18:43 <selsta> Syncing monerod is resource intensive. MacBook is obviously way more powerful than a Raspberry Pi.
20:18:54 <kiwi_83> Why is it resource intensive ?
20:19:04 <kiwi_83> I thought it is just a download
20:19:16 <selsta> No, it downloads and verifies the whole blockchain.
20:19:17 <kiwi_83> Can I read up about it somewhere or can you explain it to me ?
20:19:37 <kiwi_83> Is it possible to download without a verification to speed it up ?
20:19:46 <selsta> No.
20:19:51 <selsta> https://masteringmonero.com is beginner friendly
20:20:22 <kiwi_83> Thank you
20:20:52 <kiwi_83> Can I create a GitHub issue request, to ask for download option without verification or is it a stupid idea at all ?
20:22:15 <SerHack> selsta: thanks for mentioning Mastering Monero <3
20:22:36 <selsta> kiwi_83: Not a good idea.
20:22:57 <selsta> Nodes can feed you bad data, using an unverified blockchain is not safe.
20:23:11 <selsta> SerHack: :)
20:24:04 <kiwi_83> Okay :<
20:24:14 <selsta> Do you want to use monero right now?
20:24:28 <selsta> You can start the daemon like this: `./monerod --bootstrap-daemon-address auto`
20:24:54 <selsta> It will still sync but while it’s syncing it will use a remote daemon so that you don’t have to wait.
20:26:40 <kiwi_83> Okay thank you seltsam :)
20:26:46 <kiwi_83> selsta
20:26:49 <kiwi_83> sorry
23:56:04 <riceandbeans> What does it mean to 'stake' your cryto?
23:56:22 <riceandbeans> https://crypto.com/en/credit.html
23:56:38 <riceandbeans> A friend is trying to sell me onto using that, but the documentation seems kind of lacking
23:57:01 <riceandbeans> I also don't think they support XMR :(
23:57:37 <riceandbeans> And one of their things for setting up says to buy CRO coin and send it to an ethereum address, which just sounds like a recipe for failure to me, but maybe I don't know anything
23:57:51 <riceandbeans> I thought sending to other wallets was always instant los
23:57:54 <riceandbeans> loss rather
23:58:06 <riceandbeans> Or rather, sending cross currency to wallets was instant loss