00:17:23 <booi> Hey, any alternative to: https://downloads.getmonero.org/blockchain.raw ? The download is really slow to my server
00:17:51 <booi>   0 54.4G    0 41.6M    0     0   580k      0 27:17:42  0:01:13 27:16:29  495kvia curl
00:19:21 <selsta> You can sync without using blockchain.raw
00:19:26 <selsta> simply by using the daemon
00:22:00 <booi> Okay, thank you
00:28:46 <burp> but don't even try unless you have a SSD
00:30:11 <selsta> While the initial sync takes longer using a HDD, you can still use one.
00:30:18 <selsta> Many users run nodes on HDD.
00:37:13 <burp> yea, once you managed the initial sync it should be ok
00:37:30 <burp> I would bet that a sync takes weeks with a HDD
00:39:04 <selsta> A few days maybe, weeks probably no unless you are using a raspberry pi or similar hardware.
00:43:34 <kxsl> yes, running the initial sync on ssd was a huge time saver, but once it's synced, hdd is fast enough
04:08:17 <gingeropolous> onion-explorer seems to have a memory leak
04:08:41 <gingeropolous> so this is why daemon managers / crontab exist
04:57:36 <Woodpecker> Is there an xmrig irc chat?
05:02:34 <gingeropolous> Woodpecker, what are you looking for? some of the miner developers hang out on #monero-pools (though the chatter there is..... colorful). Also, checkout #monero-pow (much more disciplined)
05:10:53 <gingeropolous> Bus error
05:10:55 <gingeropolous> wtf is that
14:51:40 <floam412> hey guys, on the new gui wallet if you connect to a public node when the daemon is starting up, does it switch back to your own node when it's fully synced?
14:52:50 <selsta> floam412: Can you go to Settings -> Info and look what wallet mode you selected?
14:53:35 <selsta> Simple mode does not sync up your own node. Simple mode (bootstrap) does.
14:53:48 <floam412> simple mode (bootstrap)
14:53:50 <floam412> ahh I see
14:54:12 <floam412> I did that because I recently just got the trezor T... makes sense
14:55:20 <floam412> so there's no way to look at the daemon status like the other previous GUI's allowed in this mode?
14:56:58 <floam412> lol, I'm just now realizing how switching to bootstrap changes a lot of things.  I guess bootstrap doesn't allow you to change the tx fees too?
14:59:05 <selsta> Simple mode has some advanced options hidden.
14:59:26 <selsta> Usually you don’t have to change the fee, tx are included in the next block anyway.
15:35:09 <Inge-> Are we moving towards a scenario where otgoing transactions will easily be pushed over i2p/tor?
16:17:05 <mfoolb> hello.. I have to easy question about XMR buying and cold storage.. 1. As of today which "trusted" exchanges provide XMR buying not using crypto (Kraken, Bitfinex, ..?) but USD/EUR/PayPal/CC? 2. If we are talking about an amount of XMR between 1k and 100k USD what storage solution is the best?
16:17:11 <mfoolb> to=two
16:18:55 <moneromooo> AFAIK kraken and bitfinex have fiat/monero pairs.
16:19:02 <asymptotically> mfoolb: kraken allow bank transfers and allow you to exchange straight to xmr, instead of going to btc first and then to xmr. i wouldn't ever trust bitfinex though lol
16:19:32 <Inge-> also Kraken allow OTC trading if you are buyinf on the order of 100k USD or more I think
16:19:37 <moneromooo> As for storage, there's ledger and trezor (not all models).
16:19:50 <mfoolb> asymptotically: thnx Kraken and Bitfinex are the two I know.. trust information about those and other solutions are welcomed
16:20:13 <Inge-> Kraken is probably the most-trusted KYC exchange for XMR there is
16:21:21 <mfoolb> So Kraken seems to get the most 'votes'..
16:21:57 <Inge-> And a HW wallet (trezor/ledger nano S or X) seems to be a recommended way to store Monero. Alternatively you can be as safe with a properly generated paper wallet - HOWEVER, it takes a bit of extra work to spend/move the funds later, without opening yourself to the possibility of issues if your computer is infected at the time of movement.
16:22:14 <Inge-> I would definitely trust KRaken more than BitFinex.
16:22:35 <mfoolb> Inge-: well that is what I thought.. thanks
16:23:02 <Inge-> But DYOR :)
16:23:24 <mfoolb> I've done a 'bit' but it's never too much
16:23:39 <Inge-> :)
16:24:14 <Inge-> What interests you about Monero mfoolb ?
16:24:34 <mfoolb> Let's say you have more than 1Million USD in XMR are hardware storage still the best solutions? Will you have more wallets to divide funds and remove the 'single point of risk'?
16:25:47 <asymptotically> so long as you have your wallet seed written down somewhere safe, there's no risk of losing your coins
16:26:57 <asymptotically> i have a ledger nano s but i think just having an airgapped computer/laptop that you only use as a cryptocurrency wallet would be a better solution
16:27:32 <azy> where do you keep your ledger nano s?
16:28:20 <asymptotically> that's a good question. i think it fell down the back of my desk
16:28:25 <asymptotically> if i can't get to it, evil hackers can't either :D
16:29:46 <mfoolb> asymptotically: So if you had (I wish you already have) 10Millions USD in XMR your solution would be one wallet on a ledger?
16:30:24 <asymptotically> i would keep most of it on a paper wallet, and then just a small amount on a ledger so that i can easily access it
16:33:56 <mfoolb> ok.. thanks all.. we'll DMOR :)
17:14:52 <Inge-> mfoolb: what are your threat models? If you have large sums, you might want to look into multi-sig
18:50:57 <mfoolb> Inge-: thanks I'll look into it
18:52:32 <Inge-> It is still a bit convoluted, but I think that at least for large sums managed by organizations, multi-sig is an important mitigation against internal threats.
18:53:09 <Mochi101> How many millions of USD in Monero do you have on your Ledger Nano S asymptotically ?
20:07:08 <aqua42> instead of writing down your seeds and storing it somewhere you should just memorize those few words
20:07:10 <aqua42> not too hard
20:07:34 <nioc> damn I just hit my head
20:08:26 <aqua42> worst case it that you get alzheimers and forget your seed, but in that case you've already forgotten that you own monero as well
20:08:49 <Bill48105> speaking of hitting head and getting amnesia, losing all your coins..
20:09:03 <nioc> my loved ones can still benefit from your coins
20:09:17 <Bill48105> not without your key
20:09:23 <manifest> whats monero
20:09:24 <nioc> my my ,     your your
20:09:47 <Bill48105> sorry but suggesting only committing to memory is awful idea and irresponsible
20:09:48 <nioc> manifest: the eternal question
20:10:50 <nioc> when, not if I die, my mooonero will live on
20:12:10 <aqua42> your monero won't run away, they are always securely stored in the chain!
20:13:23 <nioc> yes but they need to be able to access them
20:14:29 <aqua42> pff
20:14:54 <nioc> ok
20:15:43 <aqua42> are you implying that the 17m xmr on my drive are useless?
20:16:18 <nioc> once you hit your head :)
20:27:44 <Inge-> 17m xmr IS pretty useless to own
20:29:34 <aqua42> shush
20:29:45 <aqua42> running a full node is not completely useless