01:47:54 <stumbled> http://www.desertofthereal.org
01:48:00 <stumbled> the ultimate monero resource
04:34:10 <lza_menace> "The searing eyes of Ozymandias peer out from the shifting sands. His glowering brow casts aspersions out over the dunes."
05:14:27 <modul8[m]> just some feedback on the monero gui latest release version.  is the simple mode too simple? Cant select remote node or see what you are connected to?. Cannot find a way to get to advanced mode either from the gui unless im missing something?
05:59:21 <gingeropolous> modul8[m], yeah. you have to goto close wallet
05:59:40 <gingeropolous> and then there's an orangre button on the bottom that says change mode
06:00:21 <gingeropolous> i have also felt the same way about simple mode, but i've realized i have no idea what a new user actually expects.
06:01:07 <gingeropolous> ive become too intimate with moneros stuff to appreciate what a noob needs
06:08:56 <Mochi101> Maybe you could write a paperback gingeropolous, "Getting Intimate with Monero".
06:09:20 <Mochi101> Monero could have a whole series.
08:49:25 <Mochi101> Mastering Monero, Breaking Monero, Getting Intimate with Monero
08:49:30 <Mochi101> A good start.
09:10:57 <marmulak> hot
09:48:36 <SerHack> Mochi101: <3
11:52:58 <justcallmeroot> Hey anyone here know monero's dev donation address? I'm working on a project and want to donate
11:53:29 <justcallmeroot> I should probably find it elsewhere, but too lazy and busy coding atm
11:54:06 <justcallmeroot> No BS please, I will cross check the addy.
11:54:22 <azy> https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/contributing/
11:54:35 <justcallmeroot> cool thanka
11:54:39 <azy> !resolve https://www.getmonero.org/get-started/contributing/
11:54:42 <justcallmeroot> thanks*
11:54:45 <azy> !resolve donate.getmonero.org
11:56:44 <justcallmeroot> I read addy (44AFFq5kSiGBoZ4NMDwYtN18obc8AemS33DBLWs3H7otXft3XjrpDtQGv7SqSsaBYBb98uNbr2VBBEt7f2wfn3RVGQBEP3A) I'll double check that via other VPNs. Thanks for making this easier on me
11:57:44 <azy> it's here too: https://ccs.getmonero.org/
12:11:02 <Woodpecker> Where can I get started developing my own personal monero miner? I'd like to see if I can get it working on WebAssembly.
15:04:21 <gingeropolous> Woodpecker, thats gonna be a tall order for randomx
15:04:43 <gingeropolous> i mean, first starting point would be xmrig repository i guess
15:05:25 <Woodpecker> gingeropolous: been reading through the code and documentation. I thought this would be a fun way to familiarize myself with the blockchain etc.
15:06:07 <moneromooo> First step is probably to take librandomx, convert it, see if the hash rate isn't too dire.
15:06:20 <gingeropolous> word on the street is that web page mining with randomx is DOA
15:06:40 <gingeropolous> i assume thats what webassembly does
15:06:47 <Woodpecker> Newb question, but what miner is the monero wallet using?
15:06:56 <moneromooo> monerod.
15:07:00 <gingeropolous> it uses the one in the monerod code
15:07:27 <Woodpecker> #include <wallet/api/wallet2_api.h> << its not that, is it?
15:07:43 <Woodpecker> prob not.
15:08:20 <Woodpecker> oh wait, okay yeah right.
15:08:21 <Woodpecker> got it
15:13:44 <Woodpecker> Yeah the first challenge I see is the current lack of multithreading
15:14:10 <Woodpecker> Though Qt does seem to be experimenting with it.
15:15:43 <gingeropolous> a low hanging fruit could be the implementation of new pruning features into the GUI
15:16:06 <gingeropolous> and the hash for rpc feature
15:16:18 <gingeropolous> also needs to be implemented in GUI
15:16:50 <gingeropolous> thats somewhat mining related :)
15:17:38 <Woodpecker> gingeropolous: I'm down. All gui is QML, right?
15:18:38 <gingeropolous> the actual coders in #monero-gui would know better. when i expressed interest in trying to code stuff, i was told i needed to know qt, some javascript, and c++
15:18:50 <gingeropolous> maybe it was qml. something with a q im sure
15:19:18 <Woodpecker> gingeropolous: thanks. I'm a 5 year qt developer, so it shouldnt be too difficult in that realm
15:19:34 <gingeropolous> well hot diggity dog
15:19:55 <moneromooo> QML and javascript. Some C++ glue.
15:20:06 <Woodpecker> My green area is that I do not have an intimate knowledge with crypto writ large.
15:20:16 <Woodpecker> But I got time to kill so
15:22:12 <gingeropolous> cool. well, people idle here and on irc. and as always, the best documentation is in the code or the commits... so don't go looking far for any documentation
15:23:00 <gingeropolous> and as your figuring out the code yourself, please leave comments to help others
15:24:33 <gingeropolous> "here and on irc". damn i did not sleep last night. i meant here and on #monero-gui
15:24:45 <gingeropolous> and yeah irc in general. i'll go back to drinking coffee now
15:33:05 <Woodpecker> gingeropolous: thanks, appreciate that.
15:50:58 <Woodpecker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGMTrA6NmeM When you guys talk about auditing, you are speaking simply of code audits?
15:50:59 <LobsterMan> YouTube Title: RandomX by October with Howard Chu, Tevador and Needmoney90 Views: 2,142 Length: 55:30 Uploaded: 2019-03-27 User: Monero Talk Likes: 59 Dislikes: 1
15:52:22 <Woodpecker> As opposed to, "Auditing the coin" which could be synonymous with POW ?
15:52:42 <nioc> yes code audit
15:55:02 <gingeropolous> yeah Woodpecker , it was an audit of the code implementation of randomx and also, somewhat, the underlying concept of asic equivalence
15:56:22 <gingeropolous> which can be found here: https://github.com/hyc/RandomxAudits
15:56:43 <gingeropolous> oh i guess its also here: https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/tree/master/audits
15:59:34 <Woodpecker> Asic Equivalence. RandomX is supposed to be Asic Resistant, right?
16:03:53 <moneromooo> Hopefully.
16:06:02 <Woodpecker> And what does it imply, when "The network gets pwned"?
16:10:31 <Woodpecker> Am I understanding this right, that in order to resist asic, the algorythm has been changing every six months?
16:10:42 <moneromooo> It could get pwned in many ways. Since you were talking about mining, the most relevant one is when a miner has so much hash that they can rewrite at will.
16:10:58 <moneromooo> Recently, yes.
16:14:14 <Woodpecker> moneromooo: That would require something like 60% overall power?
16:17:11 <moneromooo> Depends. It starts getting annoying much earlier.
16:17:37 <moneromooo> It's a random process, so you can get lucky runs with a lot less than that.
16:17:48 <Woodpecker> moneromooo: Has such a thing been attempted on Monero yet?
16:19:36 <moneromooo> I'm not sure.
16:19:54 <moneromooo> There were certainly points where it could have been fairly easily.
16:20:29 <Woodpecker> And I imagine that one of the issues, is that as the hash becomes more difficult and Asic's are specializing,
16:20:42 <Woodpecker> Like with bitcoin, people have given up mining with cpus etc
16:21:06 <Woodpecker> so the power becomes less distributed and more prone to being pwned?
16:21:33 <moneromooo> Yes. There are forces going in both directions though.
16:39:59 <Woodpecker> They said RandomX would be implemented in October. Is it implimented yet?
16:42:03 <moneromooo> Yes.
16:46:47 <Woodpecker> `RandomX is a new Proof-of-Work (PoW) algorithm that Monero is scheduled to begin using in the next network update. ` <<< so that happened already?
16:46:57 <Woodpecker> https://www.monerooutreach.org/stories/RandomX.php
16:49:54 <AS_Jon> i started a site about why monero is superior to bitcoin
16:49:58 <AS_Jon> http://www.desertofthereal.org
16:51:38 <Woodpecker> AS_Jon: is that a play on Trump's book, "ArtOfTheDeal"
16:52:02 <AS_Jon> it was inspired partially by donald trump
16:52:22 <AS_Jon> http://www.desertofthereal.org is perhaps my most profound project to date
17:46:11 <xmrmatterbridge> <xmrhaelan> Hyc are you here?
17:52:11 <gast> Hello, which filesystem should I format my partition to, to work as filesystem for the monero daemon hosting the blockchain?
17:56:34 <moneromooo> Something that has good mmap support and does not corrupt.
17:57:50 <gast> BrtFs ?
17:59:56 <moneromooo> Do you mean btrfs ?
18:00:01 <gast> yes, sorry
18:00:11 <moneromooo> Does it have good mmap support ? Does it corrupt ?
18:00:26 <gast> I can not tell. I heard it is good
18:02:23 <gast> Is ntfs recommend?
18:03:26 <asymptotically> if it's an ssd you can try f2fs
18:03:41 <hyc> ntfs works poorly on linux
18:04:13 <gast> It is a ssd, I will try f2fs
18:04:25 <gast> I do now know much about filesystem or linux unfortunately
18:33:54 <gast> Thanks, using f2fs seems to work well for me! :-)
18:34:41 <gast> Prior to the format, I received this error: monerod Failed to commit a transaction to the db: Input/output error - Unfortunately I do not know, which filesystem I used, I think it was Ext4 - Now I can keep syncing.
18:35:24 <gast> Do you reccommend to sync faster using: --block-sync-size 10 ?
18:35:28 <moneromooo> That usually means "your hardware is bad", though liblmdb reuses it a bit.
18:35:33 <moneromooo> No.
18:35:45 <gast> I use a raspberry pi 4
18:36:24 <gast> I thought it should be possible to run a monero daemon with a raspberry pi 4 or isnt it ?
18:36:50 <Mochi101> it is
18:37:10 <gast> Maybe my problem was, using --block-sync-size 10 prior to format the filesystem which bugged me
18:37:35 <gast> ok thanks
18:37:43 <Mochi101> http://awesomeprojectsxyz.blogspot.com/2018/04/tutorial-install-full-monero-node.html
18:38:34 <gast> I used this tutorial to start :-)
18:38:46 <gast> thank you
19:08:22 <lza_menace> AS_Jon: what an inspiring read?
19:09:08 <lza_menace> s/?/./
19:09:23 <lza_menace> I'm Ron Burgundy?
20:21:53 <textmate> yo whats up
20:22:12 <textmate> im having this slight issue, I recently compiled monero-wallet-gui for my debian sid system
20:22:30 <textmate> and Im trying to import my wallet from monerujo
20:23:26 <textmate> I got the .keys file over to my system, but when I add it to monero-wallet-gui, it adds the file etc but when it asks me for the password, it says its the wrong one even though it is the correct password
20:24:14 <textmate> I am 199% sure its correct, Ive even copied the password over from my phone which worked and tried it on the computer, its one hundred percent correct, but the gui says its not.
20:24:22 <textmate> what should I do?
20:25:18 <moneromooo> Does your password include non 7 bit ASCII characters ?
20:27:03 <moneromooo> ie, accents, language specific chars, etc.
20:27:29 <selsta> textmate: Can you use the seed to restore the wallet? AFAIK monerujo uses some special passwork system.
20:28:05 <textmate> moneromooo: it does not use any odd characters
20:28:13 <selsta> https://medium.com/@anhdres/how-to-restore-your-monerujo-wallet-on-a-different-phone-edb370350e5f
20:28:28 <textmate> selsta: im gonna check that out, thanks for the tip
20:28:57 <rottensox> Konferenco[EU] Meeting: 8th January 2020 @ 19:00 UTC https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/426
20:30:40 <textmate> oh hai rottensox
20:30:47 <textmate> I remember you from somewhere
20:32:58 <textmate> selsta:     Your wallet files were never encrypted with the password you chose, they were encrypted with the much safer CrAzYpass.
20:37:27 <asymptotically> textmate: do you have your seed phrase written down?
20:39:27 <textmate> asymptotically: no
20:40:14 <asymptotically> did you write down your "wallet files restore password"?
20:40:32 <textmate> asymptotically: I didnt see anything like that
20:40:40 <textmate> so no
20:40:48 <asymptotically> it looks like you get it when it asks you to write down your seed phrase
20:41:02 <textmate> yeah I mustve skipped it too then
20:41:54 <selsta> do you still have access to your phone wallet?
20:42:04 <textmate> selsta: no
20:42:19 <textmate> I mean yes*
20:42:34 <selsta> open the wallet and write down the seed
20:42:50 <textmate> selsta: yep I figured I should do that.
21:29:03 <xmrscott[m]> selsta: Apparently my search on mobile foo sucks (didn't see in here, community or dev), care to link the video here?
21:30:25 <selsta> xmrscott[m]: see PM