07:50:07 <jaekr> Hey
07:50:31 <rottensox> wuddup bruh.
07:51:23 <jaekr> I'm good and you?
07:51:40 <rottensox> good. thanks.
07:52:50 <jaekr> What is going on in this monero world?
07:53:46 <rottensox> trolling. nerdery. and off-topic.
07:53:57 <jaekr> Haha
07:53:58 <rottensox> what is going on in that other world?
07:54:09 <jaekr> Nothing, this is a boring world
07:55:00 <rottensox> indeed.
07:57:34 <jaekr> This is why I came in the monero world
11:09:31 <Inge-> Our Great Leader, Prophet and CEO is jumping ship tho, so we are likely doomed.
11:09:38 <Inge-> Tron fixes this.
11:10:23 <asymptotically> .ban tron
11:57:09 * rottensox slaps Inge- around with a large trout
12:09:20 <blueingress> hey, how much is the fee cost if I transfer 0.000001 xmr to someone?
12:25:50 <asymptotically> blueingress: the amount you transfer doesn't matter, just the size of the transaction. i think for a normal 1-in-2-out transaction you'll pay something like 0.0001 XMR
13:12:42 <Inge-> <0.0001
15:15:56 <blueingress> asymptotically, thanks...  transfer 0.000001 with 0.0001 feed....... so transfering 0.000001XMR is meaningless..
15:22:49 <azy> same way giving someone a hundredth of a penny is meaningless
15:26:19 <maxwilliamson> https://paste.debian.net/1121769/
15:26:49 <maxwilliamson> RPC failing to start and I have no idea why
15:27:54 <hyc> probably something else already using that port
15:28:43 <maxwilliamson> nope, netstat shows nothing
15:29:22 <Mochi101> just try a different port anyways maxwilliamson
15:29:46 <maxwilliamson> it's the same, I've tried.
15:33:52 <moneromooo> Did you try --log-level 1 ?
15:34:16 <maxwilliamson> --rpc-bind-port 0.0.0.0:11111
15:34:28 <maxwilliamson> that was the culprit
15:34:49 <maxwilliamson> I think adding 1-65535 check will be nice
15:35:37 <hyc> ah
15:35:45 <hyc> you put a full address instead of only a port number
15:36:12 <maxwilliamson> yeah it's working now
15:39:42 <gingeropolous> fuck. automatic payment for server went through
15:39:44 <gingeropolous> fuck fuck fuck
15:40:23 <gingeropolous> infinitejest-, hi :)
15:42:50 <gingeropolous> im gonna try and cancel this unless anyones interested in helping support it
15:43:01 <hyc> what server
15:43:03 <gingeropolous> its for the supernode on moneroworld
15:43:17 <hyc> we have supernodes?
15:43:20 <gingeropolous> $1393 for a year
15:43:23 <gingeropolous> i call it a supernode
15:43:58 <gingeropolous> 64 GB ram, 1 gbps port, 150 tb bandwidth
15:44:19 <gingeropolous> its functioned as a node of last resort for public node service
15:44:27 <infinitejest-> Hi gingeropolous
15:44:28 <maxwilliamson> does id change in jsonrpc?
15:44:45 <gingeropolous> though Snipa linked me to some better servers recently
15:44:55 <infinitejest-> I'm sorry I can't help this year :/
15:47:09 <maxwilliamson> won't the money be more efficiently spent on many small nodes rather than one big node?
15:48:09 <gingeropolous> dunno. depends on things i guess
15:48:35 <gingeropolous> 2 years ago the 64 gb ram allowed the whole blockchain to effectively live in memory, providing best possible rpc service
15:49:16 <gingeropolous> well i'll see if they will retroactively cancel
15:49:18 <hyc> yeah, you really lose exponential performance going to smaller nodes
15:49:22 <gingeropolous> otherwise, another year i guess
15:49:28 <maxwilliamson> ah, are you not running a daemon?
15:49:53 <gingeropolous> wat
15:49:59 <gingeropolous> yes running daemon
15:50:21 <hyc> I'm considering turning on pruning for my public node
15:50:28 <hyc> since right now it's eating most of my linode storage
15:50:39 <maxwilliamson> the blockchain doesn't have to be in memory entirely because the bottleneck is latency not io.
15:50:56 <hyc> maxwilliamson: you're missing the point
15:51:17 <hyc> when a thousand wallets connect to the daemon for service, you need to access widely disparate sections of the blockchain
15:51:22 <hyc> the more that's in RAM, the faster that goes
15:52:51 <gingeropolous> i might just have to downgrade this service to my home node.
15:53:06 <gingeropolous> hopefully the new rpc advertising kicks in
15:53:12 <gingeropolous> though its not well integrated yet imo
15:53:25 <hyc> integrated to what?
15:53:26 <gingeropolous> i guess i can just redirect to the xmr.to node
15:53:32 <gingeropolous> hyc, into wallets etc
15:53:57 <gingeropolous> i dunno if monerujo has it working yet. but i guess their autoscanner will still work
16:11:47 <maxwilliamson> what's the best way to health check monero-wallet-rpc?
16:13:16 <Mochi101> Health check?
16:13:47 <maxwilliamson> yes
16:14:05 <maxwilliamson> like, is daemon up to date and rpc is fine kind of things
16:14:08 <azy> request somt from it, height
16:14:19 <azy> compare with http sources like xmrchain etc
16:14:42 <azy> maybe check its connections and what their heights are compared with yours
17:16:44 <kinghat> https://drewdevault.com/2019/12/18/PinePhone-review.html
18:29:02 <gingeropolous> opinions on whether the node should be US based or euro based?
18:43:23 <hyc> should be in China, of course.
18:43:26 <hyc>  /s
18:46:59 <gingeropolous> chyna
19:42:51 <maxwilliamson> getmonero.org seems to have a glitch
19:43:02 <maxwilliamson> can't download https://downloads.getmonero.org/cli/linux64
19:43:40 <gingeropolous> yeah i get this: /tmp/mozilla_user0/ZHFzB552.bz2.part could not be saved, because the source file could not be read.
19:43:40 <gingeropolous> Try again later, or contact the server administrator.
21:54:44 <gingeropolous> oh fuckaduck that server has a tor onion router round robin running for public nodes
21:54:57 <gingeropolous> im gonna have to rediscover how i made that happen
21:56:53 <gingeropolous> so with the new public rpc node advertising thing
21:57:23 <gingeropolous> someone can set the flags in their daemon to advertise, and it sets a flag in the p2p info thats on the peer list
21:57:48 <gingeropolous> but thats just a statement. the peer list doesn't necessarily check that the node is actually healthy
21:58:42 <gingeropolous> so if im making a proxy from tor to these clearnet nodes, even if i just scrape directly from peer list, i should still check for liveness