09:50:52 <cyllos[m]> Is it still profitable to mine XMR solo?
10:07:21 <Inge-> is hw paid off and electricity free?
10:07:23 <Inge-> Then sure.
10:32:00 <cyllos[m]> I have a server running 24/7 with 16 threads, so HW is fine, electricity is not free but the machine is always on
11:06:37 <nonie> You need to know how much you pay for one kWh. Should be shown on your bill. And you need to messure the power consumed by your server.
11:07:22 <nonie> ok- wait solo mining.
11:13:25 <nonie> At least you should calculate how much you pay for your lottery ticket for one year. You can not really calculate a profit from here.
11:30:04 <cyllos[m]> <nonie "At least you should calculate ho"> Or pool mining
11:30:47 <cyllos[m]> I pay 0,27 EUR/kWh, and my usage is currently 300w, I don't know usage when mining though
11:39:21 <Inge-> At that electricity price, I severely doubt you will make any profit mining
11:40:32 <nonie> Ok lets assume 300Watt => 0,3kW * 0,27 EUR/kWh = 0,08 EUR/h. So you pay 8Ct per hour *24 *30 ~ 57 EUR per month.
11:56:07 <cyllos[m]> Yeah thats about it
11:56:13 <cyllos[m]> So nah?
11:56:42 <nonie> You can not predict the price and network hashrate. If the network hashrate drops you could maybe find 10 blocks a year if it goes up you maybe find 0 or 1. Same with price. Soloming is like buying a lottery ticket.
12:37:55 <Inge-> But please do support the network :)
12:43:11 <nonie> If you want to support the network you could just run one thread and forget about it. If the server is running anyway - why not.
14:12:05 <cyllos[m]> How big is the current blockchain?
14:12:07 <cyllos[m]> Might host a full node then :)
14:12:42 <dEBRUYNE> 70-75 GB
14:12:45 <dEBRUYNE> cyllos[m] ^
14:20:27 <cyllos[m]> Thanks!
14:20:35 <cyllos[m]> That is doable
14:20:53 <cyllos[m]> And the average network troughput?
14:21:07 <cyllos[m]> If I were to connect to some other nodes, not act as a public one
14:22:55 <RoundandRound> anyone now possible causes of
14:22:55 <RoundandRound> Error starting server: Failed to bind IPv4 (set to required)
14:22:55 <RoundandRound> running monerod 0.15.0.1 on debian
14:22:57 <moneromooo> A test with a connect only node yielded about 1 GB/day.
14:24:36 <moneromooo> Dropped by about a third with 6243. Will drop by another third once everyone uses 6243.
14:25:23 <moneromooo> I did not upload blocks in that test. All that is extra and depends on whether anyone tries to sync off you.
14:25:51 <moneromooo> --limit-rate-up and --limit-rate-down can be used to control rate fairly coarsely.
14:26:08 <moneromooo> RoundandRound: most likely some process is already bound on the port it tries to bind to.
14:26:18 <moneromooo> Typically monerod.
14:26:33 <moneromooo> netstat/ss should show it.
14:32:20 <RoundandRound> ah, thanks. could have figured that out myself really :)
14:46:19 <gingeropolous> moneromooo, total of 2/3rd drop in a nodes network throughput, and you title the PR "some bandwidth savings". love it.
14:55:51 <moneromooo> One thing I noticed that's kinda funny: long int ms = (long int)(delay * 100);  and delay is seconds.
14:56:11 <moneromooo> Yet, it seems to hit the right limits. There must be another off by 10 somewhere :)
15:00:36 <RoundandRound> by the way, whats the cheapest direct exchange for xmr -> btc? used xmr.to and fixedfloat in the past, is there a cheaper service?
15:00:36 <maxwilliamson> can I run two instances of rpc at same time?
15:02:09 <moneromooo> Yes. Though not with the same wallet file.
15:03:20 <maxwilliamson> I meant the same wallet file :(
15:03:34 <maxwilliamson> in case one might fail
15:04:35 <maxwilliamson> or does duplicating the wallet work? same wallet, different file and rpc per file
15:05:03 <moneromooo> That is why I said file, yes :)
15:05:40 <moneromooo> However, if you use hte same wallet with two files, only one of them will know, eg, what one off tx secret key was used to send a tx.
15:05:58 <maxwilliamson> ah, doesn't matter it will be read only
15:06:06 <moneromooo> Then it should be just fine.
15:06:22 <maxwilliamson> hmmn.
15:06:26 <maxwilliamson> what about subaddresses?
15:07:11 <maxwilliamson> if I create a subaddress in file 1 rpc and then create subaddress in file 2 rpc what happens? presumably it will return the same subaddress?
15:07:35 <moneromooo> It will, for the same indices.
15:13:23 <maxwilliamson> thx, helped a lot
15:15:30 <maxwilliamson> can I generate subaddress of a specific index? like generating 379th subaddress
15:22:03 <moneromooo> Not without creating the ones before it (using the current tooling).
17:14:00 <nonie> cool - 2/3rd drop in network throughput - in the p2p network code?
17:27:31 <moneromooo> You did notice the part about not taking into account the historical block data, right ?
17:29:50 <gingeropolous> right, its more just the routine p2p stuff
17:30:16 <nonie> nice. nice.
17:30:29 <gingeropolous> am i right?
17:32:00 <nonie> An "off by 1 bug" is pretty common. but off by 10 , XD.
17:32:02 <moneromooo> Yes.
19:23:34 <alexhugo> how do I compile 0.15.2 shell client, because it only compiles gui and server
19:26:22 <moneromooo> The command line wallet you mean ? There's no 0.15.0.2 tag on that repo (I assume you mean 0.15.0.2).
19:26:40 <alexhugo> yes
19:26:54 <ndorf> sounds like you're building the GUI repo, build from this one instead: https://github.com/monero-project/monero/
19:26:57 <alexhugo> v0.15.0.2
19:27:36 <alexhugo> ah 2 repos
19:29:12 <dEBRUYNE> Also there is no CLI v0.15.0.2 release, so you will have to utilize the v0.15.0.1 tag
22:18:28 <qoopbot> Title: An update from the Core Team on some technical responsibilities
22:18:28 <qoopbot> Link: https://getmonero.org/2019/12/16/technical-responsibilities-update.html
22:18:28 <qoopbot> Title: Release 0.15.0.2 of Monero GUI
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22:24:12 <selsta> nice bot