03:20:39 <locustlord> how do I join a pool from the monero gui?
03:39:21 <hv-bridge> <H​ashVault> You can't. Use xmrig.
03:41:30 <hv-bridge> <N​eo_Chen> Where can I exchange Stellar Network XLM to Monero without a bank account?
03:43:09 <hv-bridge> <N​eo_Chen> Sorry, wrong channel
03:43:33 <marmulak2> definitely wrong channel
03:56:52 <locustlord> I'm having trouble connecting to my node
03:57:34 <locustlord> what am I suppose to put for hostname?
03:57:42 <locustlord> in monerujo
03:57:53 <locustlord> shouldn't I be able to connect to my node using the ip/domainname
03:58:33 <manifest> sure, is the node directly behind the ip, does it have a firewall/nat in front?
03:59:14 <locustlord> yep
03:59:27 <locustlord> monerujo just asks for the hostname though
03:59:32 <locustlord> when I try to add a node
03:59:39 <manifest> can you telnet to the ip:port combo of the node`?
04:00:12 <locustlord> I'm not running a telnet server on this node
04:00:16 <locustlord> so uuh no
04:00:31 <locustlord> but I can connect to it given that a port is forwarded through other means
04:00:50 <manifest> telnet is just a tcp connection and you can talk whatever protocol you want through it
04:01:02 <manifest> i guess you could try it with netcat as well
04:01:22 <locustlord> huh windows doesn't have telnet by default
04:02:14 <manifest> i'd probably check it with the telnet, and if that doesnt connect i'd check with nmap
04:02:24 <manifest> and if that fails it probably has a firewall of some sort up
04:02:37 <locustlord> I don't think you're understanding my problem honestly
04:02:38 <manifest> or no --confirm-external-bind on the node if daemons even need that
04:02:47 <locustlord> my issue is with monerujo
04:02:54 <locustlord> I don't see where to put in an ip/domain
04:02:57 <manifest> which is a wallet that connects to a monero node amirite?
04:03:00 <locustlord> it only asks for a hostname
04:03:14 <manifest> ... just put the ip where the hostname goes
04:03:18 <manifest> more or less interchangeable
04:03:40 <manifest> at least in this context they should be or monerujo is a shit program
04:06:32 <locustlord> if I telnet in manifest should I be trying to connect to the port of the node?
04:07:04 <manifest> naturally, atleast on linux telnet is just "telnet hostname/ip port"
04:08:10 <locustlord> well that's a bit strange
04:08:20 <locustlord> it opens a cmd and closes it immediately
04:08:21 <manifest> so that would be "telnet 192.168.0.1 10050" or "telnet myhostname.com 10050"
04:08:23 <locustlord> doing it in putty
04:08:35 <locustlord> is the monero node not running on 18080?
04:09:23 <manifest> i think its the normal port for it so it should unless changed
04:10:05 <locustlord> ok I added a bootstrap address to my node this time
04:10:15 <locustlord> so I'm restarting the daemon
04:12:17 <manifest> locustlord: if the node is on the public internet a tool like https://www.portcheckers.com/ will probably come handy if you dont have a linux box to poke ports with
04:12:34 <locustlord> I already checked and it CAN be seen
04:12:44 <locustlord> I've run servers and stuff on this computer before
04:13:48 <manifest> i remember when i put my wallet-rpc up i was thinking for hours that i have a firewall or something fucking the connection, but all it was was the wallet syncing and the program just not telling me that it's still syncing and that it doesn't have the web server open yet
04:15:33 <locustlord> manifest, I already synced it
04:15:37 <locustlord> I used monerod
04:21:53 <locustlord> ok now I'm getting network status: wrong version
04:22:01 <locustlord> nvm now it's connected
04:22:20 <manifest> molto bene
06:24:29 <dafal> good morning folks, hey i running a full node, 15.0.1, finish synced, but i have allways a message: INC]  peer claims higher version that we think (60 for 1981865 instead of 12) -  what is that mean ? and i have all correct ports forwarded, but if i connect, the msg is: out of sync... all software is on date.
07:30:57 <nikitasius> selsta: hi! you wanted to know about syncing on 0.15.0.0. Well.. already 10h syncing and it's on 67%
07:31:15 <nikitasius> selsta: guess this version syncing slower than 0.14
07:31:35 <selsta> nikitasius: Yes, you need v0.15.0.1 :)
07:31:41 <selsta> v0.15.0.0 has a sync bug
07:31:46 <nikitasius> fok
07:31:52 <selsta> making it slow
07:32:04 <nikitasius> if i will interrupt it now i can continue with 0.15.0.1?
07:32:10 <nikitasius> or i need to wipe?
07:32:29 <nikitasius> selsta: i.e. data is not corrupted?
07:32:46 <selsta> no not corrupt
07:32:49 <selsta> just slower
07:33:00 <selsta> you can continue with v0.15.0.1
07:34:01 <blueingress> can we use monero-linux-x64-v0.15.0.1.CLI now?
07:34:15 <blueingress> node and cli_wallet...
07:34:20 <nikitasius> selsta: there are no other changes? API/configs?
07:40:02 <nikitasius> well, hope signature is correct :)  `8d61f992a7e2dbc3d753470b4928b5bb9134ea14cf6f2973ba11d1600c0ce9ad` it passed gpg verification
07:41:06 <nonie_> !torrent
07:41:06 <tippero> Invalid command, try !help
07:41:06 <qoopbot> nonie_: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:2fa0ac731b9e483c2534a9fcf1e3312f39dd7a76&dn=monero-all-v0.15.0.1&tr=http0x0p+00.0000000.000000tracker.opentrackr.org0x0p+013370.000000announce
07:41:39 <nonie_> You can download the torrent and dont forget to verify.
07:41:41 <nonie_> !verify
07:41:41 <tippero> Invalid command, try !help
07:41:41 <qoopbot> nonie_: gpg --verify hashes.txt && head -n-13 hashes.txt | tail -n+9 | sed -e '/^$/d' -e 's/^\(.*\),\(.*$\)/\2 \1/g' | sha256sum -c -
07:42:04 <nikitasius> nonie_: i verified already
07:42:47 <blueingress> sha256sum is matched to `8d61f992a7e2dbc3d753470b4928b5bb9134ea14cf6f2973ba11d1600c0ce9ad`
07:44:33 <nikitasius> blueingress: yep thanks <3
07:44:34 <nonie_> Did you also verified if the hash is correct?
07:44:36 <nikitasius> it matching well
07:44:59 <nikitasius> nonie_: yep, i checked sha256 + verified hashes.txt file
07:45:16 <nonie_> thumbs up.
07:45:21 <nikitasius> if noone fcked up fluppony keys, github repo and website again.. should be fine :)
07:47:26 <nonie_> If you meet him in person, let him verify the signature, then you should be fine. XD
07:49:04 <selsta> nikitasius: sync faster now? :)
07:50:48 <nikitasius> sorry got network error on my wifi
07:52:55 <nikitasius> blueingress: nonie_ looks legit https://gist.github.com/nikitasius/3bd80e5d8be0f937dfb5f387cb89cd98
08:02:21 <blueingress> nikitasius, that's greate , the node and cli upgrade to v0.15.0.1 without problem... and synced...
08:03:54 <nikitasius> blueingress: yep
08:04:06 <nikitasius> selsta: syncing pretty fast now :)
08:56:26 <dafal> i run a node with v0.15.0.1 and the msg in the node is:peer claims higher version that we think (60 for 1981961 instead of 12) AND if i connect with the client to my node i have the msg: out of sync, but it is 100% sync.
09:00:47 <selsta> dafal: you can ignore it
09:17:06 <dafal> hmm ok
09:20:29 <dafal> now i have in the client the msg: Error: Refreshed 1959028/?, daemon connection error
09:20:29 <dafal>  ?!? but the node really runs and the ports are open
09:31:36 <kayront> dafal: run tcpdump/wireshark and see what's happening on the wire
09:32:28 <kayront> so what's up with the xmrto onion?
09:54:09 <nikitasius> selsta: well working so
09:54:23 <nikitasius> dafal: i'm on 0.15.0.1 now and it's working fine
09:56:44 <dafal> the node runnig fine, the cli client running find, ports and firewall is correct, but if i wanna connect the cli to set_daemon http://getent.ch:18081 first not sync, sync was fin then conn error ...
09:57:19 <dafal> all is up to date
09:58:44 <dafal> but the node was allways 100% sync .. ^^
09:59:19 <dafal> status of the node: Height: 1974593/1974593 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 298.04 MH/s, v11 (next fork in 5.3 days), up to date, 62(out)+6(in) connections
10:08:21 <PauleBert> on getmonero.org the link to the freebsd v0.15 still points to v0.14 but if you change the download link manually to v0.15 it will actually donwload the correct file and the hash on the website also matches the v0.15 version
10:19:55 <selsta> PauleBert: browser cache
10:27:46 <PauleBert> doesn't work for me
10:38:36 <selsta> PauleBert: try a different browser / private window
10:40:02 <selsta> hmm ok the freebsd one does seem wrong
10:53:44 <PauleBert> there is not much to do the files are already correct someone just forgot to update the link on the website
10:58:38 <fluffypony> well the file was physically there
10:58:40 <fluffypony> it's just the redirect
10:58:45 <fluffypony> you can guess the filename pretty easily
11:00:25 <PauleBert> yes i did :D just wanted to let you know :)
11:00:42 <fluffypony> it's already fixed :)
11:00:58 <PauleBert> nice :)
11:01:15 <asymptotically> thank you floofy
12:31:18 <dafal> holy cow, now all works fine... my node: http://getent.ch:18081 open for the network ! :)
12:45:32 <darsie> How much of monero premine is still owned by the preminers?
12:45:45 <dEBRUYNE> There was no premine :-P
12:46:03 <darsie> I heard there was (accidental) premine. Or was that another coin?
12:46:59 <darsie> Hmm, maybe it was dash.
12:47:00 <dafal> yeah i heard the some but of a other coin. around 20 Blocks or so
12:47:47 <dEBRUYNE> darsie: Not Monero, so must be another coin :-P
12:47:52 <darsie> ok
12:48:01 <dafal> or 20 days of mining... i dont know
12:50:43 <darsie> Yeah, looks like it was dash: https://dashdot.io/alpha/?page_id=118 sorry.
13:51:53 <needmonero90> Monero, Dash... Basically the same thing, right?
14:04:35 <darsie> Yeah. IIRC dash, formerly darkcoin or so was a privacy improvement over bitcoin.
14:06:15 <moneromooo> FWIW, when you take all the shit that happened with it that went the same compounding way, it's 99% certain those things weren't accidents, but a planned scam unfolding.
14:07:03 <needmonero90> But all the people who mined the absurd number of coins at the start due to the bug voted to keep the coins, how is that not fair
14:07:33 <needmonero90> It was democratic!
14:07:35 <moneromooo> Bytecoin leaves them in the rear mirror for techhnical scammy chutzpah though.
14:07:46 <needmonero90> Agree lol
14:08:23 <darsie> They could have sent it to a burner address.
14:08:45 <gingeropolous> well and then all those coins went to the free market
14:09:02 <gingeropolous> because free markets solve everything
15:36:33 <midipoet> has there been any other sector/industry in history that began with so many/so much scams, lies and greed as the blockchain industry?
15:37:01 <midipoet> perhaps it's a symptom of a wider problem though
15:48:18 <gingeropolous> id posit that the early days (and even still today) of medicine are full of scams, lies and greed
15:48:36 <gingeropolous> i mean, snake oil salesmen is exactly that
15:49:25 <moneromooo> I was going to say astrology and medicine, but that was more based on my modern view of it, which isn't fair.
15:50:11 <moneromooo> Medicine was probably well intentioned for the most part.
15:51:13 <moneromooo> So... marketing.
15:51:43 <moneromooo> At its heart, it is scamming people. Convincing them to change their minds, usually by overriding their reasoning.
15:52:14 <gingeropolous> an aside, but one of my new favorite history nuggets is that the man responsible for modern medicine's training style for MDs (80+ hour weeks, ridiculous shifts)... was, at the time he developed this style, testing cocaine on himself as an analgesic.
16:22:20 <Inge-> so basically - cocaine good?
16:26:58 <needmonero90> Midipoet: basically every unregulated financial market ever
16:27:16 <needmonero90> Snake oil salesmen are as old as the hills
16:28:47 <midipoet> While true, I am not sure if we have seen it on the same scale before (but maybe that is ignorant). I mean the $4billion EOS ICO is a case in point.
16:29:17 <moneromooo> o_O Did you mean billion with a b ?
16:29:40 <midipoet> Lol
16:30:02 <midipoet> billion with a b is correct.
16:30:05 * moneromooo guesses yes, 4 million isn't that much.
16:30:16 <midipoet> No, I meant b
16:30:30 <needmonero90> Yep eos snagged four billion dollars in their ico
16:30:44 <needmonero90> That's pre crash valuation fyi
16:31:06 <midipoet> That's true, but that was also the current market value
16:35:45 <DeanWeen> at least eos had a product.  Onecoin raised nearly 4 billion too
17:01:22 <kinghat> https://www.wired.com/story/harry-pottery-cryptocurrency-privacy-zcash-monero/
17:22:10 <xpitr> heh so BitBay is closing monero market .. because "it's highly anonymous and can be used to launder money"
17:24:18 <nikitasius> xpitr: there are many other exchanges who support it
17:25:35 <xpitr> yea i don'
17:25:44 <xpitr> t care tbh, just received this email heh
17:25:57 <xpitr> what a great reason "it's too anonymous"
17:27:49 <moneromooo> In other news Xi Jinping is closing Hong Kong protests because "it's highly free and can be used to diminish loyalty to the party."
17:28:45 <louipc> so whos gonna hold china accountable for breaking the hong kong treaty
17:29:49 <as2333> https://surveillancevalley.com/blog/fact-checking-the-tor-projects-government-ties
17:55:34 <asymptotically> as2333: the writer of that also described the EFF as a silicon valley funded astroturfing campaign
17:55:35 <asymptotically> .shrug
17:57:11 <as2333> and he's right
17:57:20 <as2333> these are cold hard facts
17:58:03 <as2333> last but not least, it's OK to look at the author, but you should do of course do the same thing with tor. Look at who owns it.
17:59:50 <louipc> same thing with nsa and crypto
17:59:52 <as2333> "All low-latency systems as currently designed and deployed are essentially broken against The Man"  paul syverson - oops, that's the boss of the tor mafia
18:00:11 <as2333> https://www.freehaven.net/anonbib/cache/entropist.pdf
18:13:10 <asymptotically> .seen defterade