00:08:25 <selsta> .merge- #1195
00:08:25 <xmr-pr> Removed
07:29:15 <selsta> Seems like they removed the description. I think some people would still want to move subreddit. Let’s discuss in the next community meeting?
09:14:26 <ErCiccione[m]> selsta: that PR should stay in the merge queue. The admin put that description up again after it was removed by one of the mods. I highly doubt that he went back on his steps and decided to remove it. It's not just about that phrase being up or not. I'm adding it again, the core team will decide if should be merged or not, but for now there is no reson to remove it.
09:14:36 <ErCiccione[m]> .merge+ #1195
09:14:36 <xmr-pr> Added
09:15:20 <ErCiccione[m]> .merge+ #1177 #1196 #1194
09:15:20 <xmr-pr> ...
09:15:23 <ErCiccione[m]> .merges
09:15:23 -xmr-pr- #1177 #1181 #1182 #1192 #1194 #1195 #1196
09:15:31 <selsta> They talked in modmail afterwards and I think he removed it.
09:17:36 <ErCiccione[m]> I don't think that makes any difference. That's just the last one of many issues with that admin. Something like this can happen the same. We shouldn't just readdit because the admin was basically forced to remove the phrase
09:17:51 <ErCiccione[m]> let's remember that the subreddit was massively reported
09:18:26 <ErCiccione[m]> binaryfate snipa what do you think about it?
09:20:12 <Snipa> I'm staying out of it for the most part, because, as I noted, I don't see as much of an issue due to my upbringing/history.  I don't know the past with this particular admin, though I'd lean towards, in general, if the admin isn't willing to work with the community, then to consider a replacement, so there's a smooth-ish transition, as the community has a moderately large following, rather than what will seem, from the outside, as
09:20:12 <Snipa> an odd removal of what was originally a canonitial source.
09:26:46 <ErCiccione[m]> I don't think it's easy thing to replace a reddit admin, would be better to just link to another subreddit. I personally think it's crazy that we are still discussing if we should link to that subreddit after all the present and pass troubles with that admin, especially after he pull up something as disgusting as putting  a nazi phrase and, much worse, refused to take it down. Absurd.
09:37:25 <selsta> I would have suggested to move to a new subreddit and link to the new subreddit. But we can also do it in 2 commits I guess.
09:38:38 <Snipa> Any word from the gentleman who reached out to reddit about potentially replacing him?  Also, I'm not arguing for the removal, I'm mostly saying that there should be a transiton plan.
09:38:47 <Snipa> Errr, arguing against*
09:39:31 <Snipa> Sorry, been dealing with a DB mis-sync on one of my production envs, because UI rolled out before server did.  So been a hint distracted.
09:42:27 <ErCiccione[m]> I think was important to take an immediate stance about the episode. I agree about the transition plan, there will be a meeting in few days where we can take an "official" direction, but in the meantime i think it's very important that Monero/Core Team/we make clear that we don't want anything to do with such individual and his actions.
09:44:41 <ErCiccione[m]> i agree would be better to just replace the admin,so to not lose an active community, but i honestly don't know how doable that is
09:52:51 <ErCiccione[m]> selsta: could you also give a quick review to 1186 it's the base of 1194, which you already reviewed ;)
09:53:14 <ErCiccione[m]> forgot a dot there.
09:53:47 <selsta> will do when I’m back from work
09:54:14 <ErCiccione[m]> thanks!
09:54:44 <ErCiccione[m]> The invitiation is for everybody else in this room. 1186 it's quick stuff, just 6 new merchants
09:55:11 <ErCiccione[m]> 3 other PR need reviews:
09:55:40 <ErCiccione[m]> 1191: add note about removal of long payment ids in the moneropedia voice
09:56:37 <ErCiccione[m]> 1180: just make the rss feed use variables for absolutes links (in prep for the onion service)
09:57:49 <ErCiccione[m]> 1174: update all languages with the missing strings. This one is a bit more annoying to review, but can be easily done by building the PR and noticing how all the warnings (or most of them) disappeared
20:25:30 <ErCiccione[m]> .merge+ #1186
20:25:41 <selsta> bot ded
20:25:48 <Snipa> Poor bot. :(
21:09:54 <sarang> ErCiccione[m]: sorry for the delay on my MR for adding the paper title/abstract
21:10:01 <sarang> Have been delayed running some new data
21:11:17 <ErCiccione[m]> Nothing to be sorry about. No worries.
21:38:06 <dsc> .merges
21:38:06 -xmr-pr- #1177 #1181 #1182 #1192 #1194 #1195 #1196
21:39:10 <selsta> .merge+ #1186
21:39:11 <xmr-pr> Added
22:16:03 -xmr-pr- SarangNoether opened pull request #1197: WIP: Triptych paper
22:16:03 -xmr-pr- > https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/monero-site/merge_requests/1197
22:34:06 <sarang> MR 1197 is still WIP since some language files appear to be missing MRL-11 translation strings
22:34:10 <sarang> I'll add them where missing
22:34:32 <sarang> There will also be an update to the CLSAG abstract... should I include that in the same MR, or do a separate one?
22:34:37 <sarang> ^ ErCiccione[m] etc.
23:24:51 <ErCiccione[m]> sarang: i already PRd the missing strings in 1174. only issue is that you will have to rebase after that one is merged
23:25:01 <ErCiccione[m]> about the update, yeah, better another commit
23:25:52 <sarang> Another commit in the same MR, or a separate MR?
23:27:08 <ErCiccione[m]> another commit in the same PR should be fine, just change the title maybe
23:27:54 <sarang> righto
23:28:08 <ErCiccione[m]> but also another PR based on 1197 is ok (so you don't have to rebase it)
23:28:16 <ErCiccione[m]> at the end is whatever luigi prefers
23:28:46 <sarang> I can either rebase or be lazy and nix the MR, fetch/merge and branch again instead :)
23:36:13 <ErCiccione[m]> either of the two is fine, but i would go for the lazy way :)
23:37:41 <ErCiccione[m]> which is not that lazy actually, would avoid you an annoying rebase
23:44:50 <sarang> righto
23:45:00 <sarang> depends when suraeNoether gives the go-ahead for the CLSAG update
23:46:40 <ErCiccione[m]> No rush, i'm going to bed now. Good night!
23:46:47 <sarang> see ya
23:48:17 <ErCiccione[m]> side note: would be cool to have these papers published on getmonero first instead of third parties. For a "pr" reason mostly, but i understand our process of reviewing + merge + update getmonero is slower.
23:49:00 <sarang> I mean, we could
23:49:09 <sarang> I don't like the idea of not having a canonical version though
23:49:43 <sarang> There's no license restriction on IACR preprints
23:51:01 <ErCiccione[m]> yeah i understand. Maybe we could publish at the same time, as much as possible at least
23:51:06 <sarang> I figured if we're going to put up an IACR version for broad distribution, that could be considered canonical
23:51:25 <sarang> If there's an idea for a good workflow for this, I'm open to hear it
23:51:42 <sarang> But not everything we post is suitable for IACR due to scope etc.
23:51:53 <sarang> Bigger stuff certainly is, like CLSAG or DLSAG or Triptych
23:56:54 <ErCiccione[m]> No ideas for now, will sleep on it. We could definitely have a better and categorized research lab page tho. Which would give us more possibilities, instead of the general "Monero Research Lab Papers".
23:57:41 <ErCiccione[m]> dunno. sleepy sleepy. Tomorrow is another day
23:58:05 <sarang> We could also simply post MRL-header versions of the IACR stuff if desired
23:58:20 <sarang> I figured the simplicity of single versions could reduce confusion and simplify changes