01:24:28 <sgp_> link above updated with verification and size numbers
10:45:49 <alex007k> Goood Morning Vietnam! I think everyone here knows that most Monero exchange withdrawals and desposits are traceable (Breaking Monero poisoned outputs). How does it feel to go out and lie to people that they are private and then earn less than holding BTC on your bag?
17:32:46 <andytoshi> > blames XMR for shit exchanges do
17:32:49 <andytoshi> > promotes BTC
17:33:15 <andytoshi> i assume you're simultaneously in #bitcoin saying that BTC is shit because of the gox hack
17:52:00 <sgp_> it's just a troll lol
17:54:29 <sgp_> dEBRUYNE: I think it's unwise to delay BP+ for Triptych. I think you are picturing Tripytch being faster to implement than it actually will be
17:54:54 <sgp_> BP+ is actually quite close, just need the audit. So theoretically <3 mo
17:57:43 <dEBRUYNE> Ecosystem can't handle forks in quick succession
17:57:52 <dEBRUYNE> It would be unwise to do a fork in say March or April, imo
17:58:47 <sgp_> sure I'm not saying to rush it
17:59:16 <sgp_> I'm just saying, for example, BP+ in June-ish 2020, Triptych in June-ish 2021
17:59:20 <dEBRUYNE> I'd personally like to see an upgrade at the end of the year with both Triptych and BP+
17:59:32 <dEBRUYNE> I think a full year would be sufficient to get Triptych ready
17:59:38 <sgp_> moneromooo sarang ^
18:01:13 <moneromooo> I'm strongly against coding it myself, I'll just screw something up in the crypto. I could do python->C++ like BP though. Either way, it'd need someone who groks the crypto well first.
18:01:30 <sech1> sgp_ June 2020?
18:01:39 <sgp_> lol oops
18:01:44 <sgp_> :)
18:02:02 <sgp_> 2021, 2022
20:49:26 <sarang> I don't have a good estimate of what it would take for folks to audit and deploy Triptych
20:49:53 <sarang> My existing Triptych code handles proving and verifying already
20:50:17 <sarang> There would be additional work on output selection that is nontrivial
20:50:36 <sarang> as well as the usual upgrade-the-protocol stuff involved whenever consensus rules and transaction formats change
20:51:18 <sarang> But sgp_ is correct that after an audit, nothing particular is stopping a deployment of BP+ if it's decided to do so
20:59:06 <dEBRUYNE> sarang: Multisig for Triptych is a nontrivial effort as well, correct?