14:11:15 <sarang> The CLSAG reviewers gave their approval of the updated linkable anonymity security model and proof, hooray
14:11:29 <sarang> The preprint is now in much better shape
14:11:34 <moneromooo> Congrats :)
14:12:23 <sarang> I'll do a last review in a few days and post the revision to the IACR archive
14:12:36 <sarang> Still no code changes needed as a result of the preprint review
14:13:03 <sarang> There's still a bit of typesetting etc.
19:32:05 <gingeropolous> huzzah!
20:00:53 <sarang> Hmm there's a conference workshop I'd like to submit to, but it exceeds their page limits
20:00:55 <sarang> boo
20:01:34 <sarang> The world of academic papers is digital! Better establish some weird typesetting rules, margins, and page limits
20:01:35 <moneromooo> I'd like to submit a paper, but it's too long for this margin...al conference
20:02:15 <sarang> Papers have a lot of long equations? Better make wide margins
20:06:31 <sarang> Bah, not sure how to make CLSAG 16 pages without axing all of the security proofs
20:06:38 <sarang> and a huge chunk of the narrative
20:11:12 <UkoeHB_> 16 pages... sounds like you need to try a smaller font size :)
20:11:21 <sarang> if only
20:11:38 <sarang> Paper too short? "Needs longer proofs"
20:11:45 <sarang> Paper too long? "Needs shorter proofs"
20:11:48 <sarang> -______-
20:12:33 <sarang> and the format they require does have very wide margins, which is not helpful
20:12:52 <UkoeHB_> time to start your own journal sarang, self publishing is the best :p
20:13:11 <sarang> Nothing says peer review like your own journal
20:13:49 <sarang> I've probably said this before, but I would love to see a Journal of Incremental Cryptography
20:14:08 <sarang> There are so many papers that it becomes a contest for who does the most earth-shattering stuff
20:14:19 <sarang> and there's a lot of good incremental work that seems to have no proper home
20:16:53 <UkoeHB_> "I've probably said this before, but I would love to see a Journal of Incremental Cryptography" <- pretty sure I've only heard part of this story ^.^
20:17:36 <sarang> Heh, that's about it
20:17:41 <sarang> I think it'd be useful for the ecosystem
20:17:50 <sarang> especially for applied stuff
20:18:20 <sarang> If journals/proceedings only want big new flashy things, there's not really a good home for solid incremental work that has good applications
20:18:48 <sarang> and because the submission/review process is so long, work can quickly become less big new flashy
20:19:12 <sarang> Preprint archives serve a kinda sorta home for that stuff, but there's no review here
20:19:13 <sarang> *there
20:20:23 <sarang> Looks like freenode did their server rerouting...
20:21:03 <UkoeHB_> you can disable the join/leave messages in irccloud
20:21:30 <sarang> I think CLSAG falls into that incremental improvement stuff... it's smaller and faster, and now has a much better security model than the early work, but it's not world-shattering by any means
20:21:42 <sarang> but it's a clear and definite improvement with great applications
20:22:19 <sarang> Yet it may never find a journal/proceedings home, depending on reviewers' whims
20:23:31 <UkoeHB_> isn't the more basic problem a lack of reviewers?
20:24:40 <sarang> I'm sure that's true for many journals/proceedings
20:25:10 <sarang> and a thorough review is time-consuming
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