13:43:50 Hello all 13:43:51 How's research? 13:44:06 I'll be working on CLSAG preprint updates today 16:59:11 Isthmus: any updates on the coinbase spend patterns? It would be great to include this selection in time for the CLSAG hardfork 16:59:46 ^ 16:59:51 I would also love to see this data 17:01:06 Also deducible XMR spends 17:01:18 Yeah, I have the deducible data set sitting around 17:01:22 I should work out that information 17:01:32 Definitely another good data point 17:01:43 That'll only apply to before the CT transition, of course 17:01:49 Ya 17:01:57 But as you say, it is a data point 17:02:00 I'll write up a script for that 17:02:04 Thanks for the ping :) 17:02:09 * sarang adds to his list 17:03:31 Coolio 17:17:48 I've update the swap protocol (https://github.com/h4sh3d/xmr-btc-atomic-swap/blob/dl-proof/whitepaper/xmr-btc.pdf) 17:19:04 It's not finished, I still need to add more definition and explain some function used in page 7, but the core is done, and seems to conceptually work! 17:35:29 cool. atomic swaps without timelocks! 17:36:05 Wow, thats amazing h4sh3d[m]!! 17:36:09 Great work, man. 17:38:15 :D 17:38:19 Reading now... 17:38:25 Same :D 17:45:08 where can I read this paper? 17:45:52 https://github.com/h4sh3d/xmr-btc-atomic-swap/blob/dl-proof/whitepaper/xmr-btc.pdf 18:12:04 @sgp_ BTC or XMR 18:12:26 sarang is running coinbase on XMR deducible afaict 18:12:31 he doesn't have the BTC data though 18:12:37 so, BTC :) 18:14:31 Are you establishing the ground truth for XMR coinbase spend time distribution from the pool-published payouts? 18:32:19 Isthmus: these are only on deducible outputs 18:32:45 sarang isn't looking at pulling the pool API spend data, since that would be more work to correlate with the payouts 18:33:08 and it would be deducible by heuristic anyway based on off-chain data and attested info 18:59:47 I don't have deducible pool data 19:00:20 Only on-chain deducibility 19:00:31 but it's a data point 19:00:55 and one that's a legitimate ground truth data set for most of that time period 19:06:37 the blackball list may indirectly have the deducible coinbase outputs for most pools for ~2017-2018 https://moneroblackball.com/ 19:08:23 Perhaps. But I'm using data that I can independently verify 19:08:51 I wonder how many people are actually using that list. I know even I don't and I coded it... 19:17:11 haha I don't know either. sneurlax's mining pool code hasn't been touched since 2018 22:57:10 @sgp_ found some code snippets that include some age analysis (though more of an address perspective than U/TXO perspective 22:57:13 ) 22:57:17 https://gist.github.com/allenday/16cf63fb6b3ed59b78903b2d414fe75b