13:43:50 <sarang> Hello all
13:43:51 <sarang> How's research?
13:44:06 <sarang> I'll be working on CLSAG preprint updates today
16:59:11 <sgp_> Isthmus: any updates on the coinbase spend patterns? It would be great to include this selection in time for the CLSAG hardfork
16:59:46 <sarang> ^
16:59:51 <sarang> I would also love to see this data
17:01:06 <sgp_> Also deducible XMR spends
17:01:18 <sarang> Yeah, I have the deducible data set sitting around
17:01:22 <sarang> I should work out that information
17:01:32 <sgp_> Definitely another good data point
17:01:43 <sarang> That'll only apply to before the CT transition, of course
17:01:49 <sgp_> Ya
17:01:57 <sarang> But as you say, it is a data point
17:02:00 <sarang> I'll write up a script for that
17:02:04 <sarang> Thanks for the ping :)
17:02:09 * sarang adds to his list
17:03:31 <sgp_> Coolio
17:17:48 <h4sh3d[m]> I've update the swap protocol (https://github.com/h4sh3d/xmr-btc-atomic-swap/blob/dl-proof/whitepaper/xmr-btc.pdf)
17:19:04 <h4sh3d[m]> It's not finished, I still need to add more definition and explain some function used in page 7, but the core is done, and seems to conceptually work!
17:35:29 <gingeropolous> cool. atomic swaps without timelocks!
17:36:05 <fort3hlulz> Wow, thats amazing h4sh3d[m]!!
17:36:09 <fort3hlulz> Great work, man.
17:38:15 <sarang> :D
17:38:19 <sarang> Reading now...
17:38:25 <fort3hlulz> Same :D
17:45:08 <philogy> where can I read this paper?
17:45:52 <selsta> https://github.com/h4sh3d/xmr-btc-atomic-swap/blob/dl-proof/whitepaper/xmr-btc.pdf
18:12:04 <Isthmus> @sgp_ BTC or XMR
18:12:26 <sgp_> sarang is running coinbase on XMR deducible afaict
18:12:31 <sgp_> he doesn't have the BTC data though
18:12:37 <sgp_> so, BTC :)
18:14:31 <Isthmus> Are you establishing the ground truth for XMR coinbase spend time distribution from the pool-published payouts?
18:32:19 <sgp_> Isthmus: these are only on deducible outputs
18:32:45 <sgp_> sarang isn't looking at pulling the pool API spend data, since that would be more work to correlate with the payouts
18:33:08 <sgp_> and it would be deducible by heuristic anyway based on off-chain data and attested info
18:59:47 <sarang> I don't have deducible pool data
19:00:20 <sarang> Only on-chain deducibility
19:00:31 <sarang> but it's a data point
19:00:55 <sarang> and one that's a legitimate ground truth data set for most of that time period
19:06:37 <sgp_> the blackball list may indirectly have the deducible coinbase outputs for most pools for ~2017-2018 https://moneroblackball.com/
19:08:23 <sarang> Perhaps. But I'm using data that I can independently verify
19:08:51 <moneromooo> I wonder how many people are actually using that list. I know even I don't and I coded it...
19:17:11 <sgp_> haha I don't know either. sneurlax's mining pool code hasn't been touched since 2018
22:57:10 <Isthmus> @sgp_ found some code snippets that include some age analysis (though more of an address perspective than U/TXO perspective
22:57:13 <Isthmus> )
22:57:17 <Isthmus> https://gist.github.com/allenday/16cf63fb6b3ed59b78903b2d414fe75b