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selsta
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selstanot directly monero related but maybe interesting for some here
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sarangThat's a very nice write-up
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sarangSince CLSAG construction is so similar, I hope/assume that was designed with the MLSAG fixes in mind
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MRL-discord<SerHack> impressive vulnerability report
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sarangLooks like no particular recommendations on the Monero side
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IsthmusHeyo
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IsthmusOne of Insight's blockchain researchers wants to work on Monero, ideally leveraging their expertise in quantum computers and their impacts on security models to ascertain how our encryption could be hardened.
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IsthmusThoughts on the research plan? github.com/insight-decentralized-consensus-lab/post-quantum-monero
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Isthmush/t Noethers for sharing their ideas / advice.
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UkoeHB_"Deobfuscating the transaction graph:" if private-keys for one-time addresses can be found then true signers are trivially identifiable, so graph analysis would be meaningless
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sarangindeed
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sarangKey image bases are a function of the signing public key
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sarangTemporarily quieting unregistered accounts due to spam in other channels
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sarangMessage me directly if this is problematic
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sarangI'll un-quiet those users within the hour if the spammer go away in other channels
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UkoeHB_The proposal looks reasonable. I am hesitant to accept "The existence of such an adversary is a matter of 'when' not 'if'." since many problems are not solved, and 'research is necessary' to even see if a solution exists for those problems. However, it has not been proven that any of them are unsolvable, and after all we don't know what we don't know, new discoveries are always being made. It's worthwhile
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UkoeHB_to investigate
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» Isthmus makes notes
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IsthmusYep.
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IsthmusThe reason that I consider graph matching separately is this:
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IsthmusCould switch to another cryptosystem without the pubkey-->privkey issue, in which case that threat vector is closed but graph analysis is still a [different] risk
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sarangI assume you mean from a purely bipartite-graph-matching perspective
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sarangin which case, yes
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» Isthmus nods
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IsthmusThough graph matching is already parallelizable on traditional computers :- /
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sarangyes
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sarangThat being said, without external data the cardinality is quite large
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IsthmusAnd yea @Ukoe I softened the wording around the inevitable advent. Was originally worded differently, then I must have accidentally sharpened it on an editing pass.