00:16:25 <UkoeHB_> for rcttypefull, how was the order of ring members determined? It cant just be blockchain output index, since all real inputs have to share the same index
00:17:14 <UkoeHB_> unless were decoys selected so the same number was above and below the real index? or did multi input rcttypefull tx just not work at all?
00:18:24 <moneromooo> It was only used when you have one ring.
00:28:46 <UkoeHB_> I thought it could technically be used for multi-inputs if you wanted to implement that?
00:32:56 <moneromooo> It could.
01:15:09 <UkoeHB_> guess it's a moot point now, but I'd expect there to be some annoying issues related to indexing
16:06:50 <sarang> Initial code for Ledger support from cslashm: https://github.com/SarangNoether/monero/pull/1
16:06:54 <sarang> ^ moneromooo
16:07:01 <sarang> Still undergoing testing AFAIK
20:46:28 <UkoeHB_> To avoid side channel attacks we use constant-time crypto operations. However, it sounds like those operations would be much faster if not constant-time. Is constant-time crypto used for verifying blocks? I don't see any danger for side channel analysis of a node verifying blocks. What is the real context around this concept?
20:50:47 <sarang> For costly scalar-group operations in things like signature and proof verifications, we make heavy use of variable-time operations
20:56:29 <UkoeHB_> Ah thanks