moneromooo can you even make a spend key with 0*G?

it should be identity but does the function work?

It is invalid I think, technically.

You might not be able to do much of anything, I don't really care. I want to know whether you can break anything that's not yours.

(and I expect the answer to be "no", but I have a reason for asking)

Ill let the cryptographers answer that. My guess is no

Yes, sorry, I wasn't asking you in particular :)

:p

Are there transactions suspected of having this property?

No.

Off the top of my head, it would provide easier-to-identify outputs and permit spending with only the view key, for example

Which is also the case for "I pick a very random spend key then publish it". So I'm not interested in those things.

From a ring signature perspective, output public keys are output public keys

You can already select any output pubkey you want... the protocol can't check that such a pubkey corresponds to an "expected" user public key

Good morning everyone... Today I am finishing finishing finishing finishing my CLSAG review and debugging debugging debugging matching, in that order.

[keybase] <kaylasu>: mornin' and GL and on those thingies :3

UwU

How's the CLSAG review going so far, suraeNoether?

Slowly 😥 it's getting to the point where rereading the same paragraphs over and over is yielding reduced returns on copy editing value

But I have a list of comments that I'm going to send you later today

Thanks

When did the keybase bridge get added?

And how do I get in on that

just right now, still still setting it up, is that okay with you? can shut it down at any point, that aint an official bridge but also with the "Cypherpunk & Cryptoanarchy Club" discord

I'm fine with it until it gets swamped with a bunch of up-country degens

Add me on keybase, I am surae

If there's going to be a bridge, I feel like it should be managed by one of the Monero team members. That's my primary concern

alrighty, awesome and will do :)

We need some sense of accountability to the community so that it's not just a random room controlled by a third party

Who's in charge of the other bridges like matrix?

whole point of the discord is that there is no hierarchy, we're on an anarchist model, everyone having the permissions, as for right now tho set the discord <-> irc to be readonly on the #monero-research-lab

IMO there needs to be a way to remove spammers etc. from the channel

I have no interest in getting spam or hateful nonsense that nobody can stop

AFAIK it's possible to turn off the matrix bridge with some sort of matrix-bridge bot user that's on the network

i hear ya, on discord side like mentioned everyone having the permissions, its kinda self-regulating to avoid that kind of scenarios

btw, added you on keybase :)

And I suppose if needed, from the IRC side the bridge user could simply be kicked/banned?

for now i havent set up matrix yet, its kind of a first time for me on irc, tried it once 10 years ago for 2 days and thats about it, never again

sure, kick is a thing yes

ok

Hopefully there won't be any issues with anyone violating the "be excellent to each other" guideline

:)

there's at least 3 other bridges in here, that I'm certain aren't controlled by MRL. Just peeps spying on ye' ol' Monero

suraeNoether: you saw vtnerd's PR from yesterday?

No, I was Sundaying. Linky?

(not home yet)

I did a separate @-mention for you

[keybase] <kaylasu>: test

[keybase] <kaylasu>: :)

test succeeded

[keybase] <surae>: Yay

:)

Reminder that our weekly meetings are now held on Wednesdays at 18:00 UTC (see topic for the usual agenda link)

You can read previous message logs on the corresponding GitHub issues

I'll be working on encrypted timelock proof-of-concept stuff and timing estimates

sarang suraeNoether : I forgot about tweetnacl! after chopping the unused parts and adding a few functions, view key scanning (except for derivation_to_scalar :/) for Monero can be done in 301 lines of C

very slow though, 2300% percent slower for 2-output transactions (just the crypto ops) than the existing scanning crypto used by wallet2