02:39:51 <gingeropolous> total miners 88747
03:04:17 <NickvanSaberhagn> Wow big decline. Why is that?
10:25:45 <gingeropolous> dunno. now i wish i had screenshotted the entire thing so i could see each pool's contribution to that number
10:26:09 <sech1> minexmr used to be over 50k miners, 41k now
10:40:53 <DaveyJones> maybe the loopholes that got closed everywhere, where people mined?
10:41:37 <Quarky93[m]> lol windows update probably killed a bunch of miners?
10:42:20 <Quarky93[m]> rolling out their mining sniffer thing?
10:42:30 <gingeropolous> but the update happened days ago?
10:42:52 <Quarky93[m]> 🤷
10:43:03 <gingeropolous> i feel like this dropoff was sudden.
10:44:06 <gingeropolous> so more the action of one lever being flipped vs. 9k individual levers
10:45:44 <gingeropolous> however, supportxmr reports by mining address, right? so as moneromooo indicated one day, a botnet probably wouldn't generate a unique address per mining instance
10:46:00 <gingeropolous> unless it thought it was a way to avoid detection
10:47:21 <gingeropolous> how small can you pack address generating code?
10:47:55 <gingeropolous> though i guess viral load size really doesn't matter
11:16:19 <hv-bridge> <\x> they can just use subaddresses
11:17:33 <moneromooo> That's a very good point.
11:18:28 <sech1> one subaddress per infected machine? But then it has to reach minimal payout on its own
11:18:46 <hv-bridge> <\x> doesnt make sense yeah
11:18:58 <sech1> minexmr minimal payout 0.004 XMR
11:19:05 <moneromooo> That's a very good point too :D
11:19:14 <hv-bridge> <\x> im sure most botnetters are aware of xmr-node-proxy and xmrig-proxy
11:19:28 <hv-bridge> <\x> and its not like its hard to host them
11:35:08 <gingeropolous> well, i guess windows update coulda happened in a short time window for some reason or another
15:07:39 <xnbya> The miner count that miningpoolstasts shows for minexmr includes workerids
15:07:48 <xnbya> the number of unique wallets is around 13k
15:08:29 <xnbya> and there have been cases of a single entity using a large number of wallets
15:09:44 <hyc> so only 13k unique users
15:09:55 <sech1> we've been fooled this whole time :D
15:09:58 <hyc> I wonder how many there were before, when #miners was 40k
15:11:09 <sech1> so we actually have 60k miners if we count minexmr as 13k
15:21:43 <xnbya> unique wallets 2021-02-01 6k, 2021-03-01 8k, 2021-04-01 12k
15:26:44 <hyc> so still substantial growth
15:26:52 <hyc> just not same magnitude as we were talking before
15:53:55 <hv-bridge> <\x> hyc, Hashvault was talking about this last time
15:54:43 <sech1> 6k to 12k in 2 months is more in line with https://subredditstats.com/r/MoneroMining
15:55:04 <hv-bridge> <\x> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725316395428085831/837356319610241036/unknown.png
15:55:08 <hv-bridge> <\x> ^^
16:00:48 <nioc> w0w
18:23:21 <gingeropolous> wassamean