you can also just use zephyr as a light weight kernel

<yanmaani "I'm sort of wondering why superc"> super computers are often used by scientists who actually have no idea how computers work lol 😂 . They want to drop in python code and expect it to automatically scale across a thousand nodes. That means a robust network stack, network storage, fault tolerance, automatic backups. You have so many nodes that at any one time some machines crash (whether it's due to softwa

bug or cosmic ray), the system needs to move work to another node seamlessly etc. It's a lot easier with an OS, not all about raw performance, at least on the CPU side.

Quarky93[m]: surely they don't run python on them, come on

maybe one of those networked numpy backends

but I can't imagine them spinning up a trillion instances of cpython

This is one of the reasons SmartNICs are hot right now (NVIDIA's DPU etc.), moving the load of orchestrating the datacenter to the NIC, freeing up the CPU

<yanmaani "but I can't imagine them spinnin"> sure the backend is most likely a C++ library, but the easiest way to invoke that is cpython :)

oh, not to mention R code...

Right, but if that caused perf issues they'd change it in a heartbeat

just have the scientists use some wrapper library that sends over asm to execute on the cluster

how do you pass messages between nodes?

you'll have to bake in a TCP stack in the binary?

at some point you'll just be shipping an OS that only runs one program lol

that woud be the ideal, perf-wise ;)

The ideal solution is to treat the CPU as an accelerator with a lightweight ARM host

Was randomx chosen specifically due to difficulties running it in a browser (preventing coinhive et al)?

Or rather designed with that intention

<osineofine "Was randomx chosen specifically "> pretty sure that was one of the goals. It uses a lot of compute so your fans would ramp up alerting you that something's going with the browser session.

osineofine: I don't believe that was a goal. The goal was to make it uneconomically viable to create ASICs that would outcompete consumer hardware in efficiency.

yanmaani, unfortunately, from my experience, Quarky93[m] is correct. you can insert really any scripting langauge in place of python... i've seen perl, R, python ...

sometimes, as a software user, i'll get lucky and they've stitched together some c++ with various scripts, but ... yeah

Quarky93[m]: no, you could have an OS with absolutely no security features too

like TempleOS

gingeropolous: surely the supercomputer folks are better tho

yeah, i guess a university cluster isn't technically a super computer ...

I've seen code being run on a national supercomputer and it's not pretty XD

found my power meter. M1 poower supply drawing 19.6W while xmrig is running

0.7W idle

120 h/s/watt, better than Ryzen

as expected I guess

yeah

5nm process, ARM arch is just cleaner

too bad, this guy won make a very effective space heater in the winter :P

won't*

so sad

Wonder how Neoverse will do

they puttin that bad boy into a multi CPU server format?

apple got out of the server biz a long time ago. would be interesting to see them re-enter

well there's rumoured to be a 32-core mac pro mini coming

more CI/CD abuse twitter.com/AaronErickson/status/1386684421617557509

<\x> why dont they just block stratum traffic

<\x> but hmmm

<\x> yeah pools offer tls/ssl now

<\x> so idk

packet sniffer?

<\x> even iptables will do it if its not encrypted

<\x> iptables string regex