16:41:15 Apple M1 benchmark: https://xmrig.com/benchmark/5AVxtn 16:43:29 all 8 cores have the same hashrate? 16:45:25 yes, this is weird 16:45:54 xmrig is trying to figure it out now (it's his M1) 17:07:37 2300 h/s @ 13.1 watts (CPU package only) 17:25:58 how does that compare to Ryzen from efficiency side? 17:27:29 Better than Ryzen. The best Ryzen 3900X rigs are able to do something like 12 kh/s, 100W at the wall which would put CPU at 75W, so ~160 h/s/W (CPU package) 17:27:41 M1 does ~175 h/s/W 17:28:19 16- and 32-core M2 next year will be RandomX monsters 17:29:11 well, maybe not monsters, but I expect 3900X levels with lower power consumption 17:29:14 My 3900X gets 15,200 at I think 80w for cpu 17:29:37 nioc check "CPU Package" line in HWInfo 17:30:01 I will wen cat gets off lap :) 17:30:28 CPU package is usually 20-25W more than just CPU 17:30:34 Ok 17:31:00 It's I/O die that adds these watts 18:23:16 sech1 cpu + soc = 93W 18:23:18 package = 105W 18:23:44 Not bad. So M1 ~ Ryzen in efficiency 18:23:48 not at most efficient cpu frequency 18:24:02 4.0 GHz 18:24:52 When I did experiments with Ryzen, the most efficient was 0.9V on CPU and highest stable frequency at that voltage - usually ~3.7 GHz 18:25:05 and running DDR4 at 2400 MHz with lower voltage on SoC also helps 18:27:54 the only comparison I have is 4.1 GHz was 10 watts more at the wall 19:55:05 8 threads uniform could just be the OS scheduler shuffling things around. does that ench run with pinned threads? 19:55:43 eh wait, that USer Agent says Intel Mac OS X 19:59:45 It also says L2: 32.0 MB for some reason. I guess it's just hwloc glitches with this system 20:01:22 gmaxwell is apparently accusing us of profiting with insider knowledge off the transition to RandomX. what a crock. 20:01:57 also claims a bunch of 7742s hit the market after the randomx switch that were certainly mining 20:02:17 big deal. server chips are much more expensive than desktop chips, would have been a waste of money 20:02:44 as for insider knowledge, none of the RandomX work was hidden from the public so wtf is he talking about 20:03:41 oh no, I was saying that I'm confident that people exploited the change for profit. Whats impossible to know is if the people pushing the change (e.g. Howard Chu) were a part of that. 20:04:30 gmaxwell who? 20:04:33 Well, that miners will try to make as much profit of mining is kinda the point anyway. 20:04:45 gmaxwell is a BTC dev 20:04:50 he invented CT 20:05:59 Why would he care even? 20:06:08 Did he have 1000 Vega farm on Monero? 20:06:18 has to keep up the myth that ASIC-resistance is futile 20:06:28 otherwise all of BTC devs look like fools. which they obviously are. 20:06:47 you people are disgusting! wanting miners to get block rewards instead of shady asic manufacturers 20:06:50 hyc is apparently accusing BTC devs of being fools! 20:06:58 :D 20:09:27 anyway, what insider knowledge is he talking about? RandomX was public since December 2018 20:09:59 yeah that makes no sense at all 20:12:53 https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/commit/07a8318a4579a62a696d0c8250ad64fefa932e4d 20:13:00 Even November 1st, 2018 :D 20:17:05 and we had announced our CPU-centric goals back in March 2018 20:18:07 the prototype randprog and randomjs repos were all public too, all the ongoing work process and discussions were public. so wtf. 20:19:24 he does not seem well informed