00:36:29 <needmoney90> Yes mooo, I'm trying to figure out approximately where we can be considered safe against various attackers
00:36:49 <needmoney90> Cloud like aws/gcs being one, botnets being another
06:46:53 <sech1> needmoney90 https://www.zdnet.com/article/a-decade-of-malware-top-botnets-of-the-2010s/
06:47:03 <sech1> The article gives numbers in millions of infected PCs
06:47:09 <sech1> but that's over the course of few years
06:47:35 <sech1> I don't think any botnet has more than 500k active PCs at the same time, and these are usually weak old PCs
13:53:49 <gingeropolous> what does the attack entail?
13:54:27 <gingeropolous> imo the primary concern is network destabilization due to massive reorgs or a general denial of service, but those are all sustained attacks
13:54:59 <gingeropolous> and monero could mitigate (or ameliorate) the consequences of such attacks if we referenced outputs via ID instead of index
13:55:21 <gingeropolous> but i have yet to learn c++ to that level yet
14:52:12 <hyc> that would make ouputs 4x larger
14:52:40 <hyc> output references
16:01:44 <gingeropolous> ok well i guess we'll wait 4 years until the tech catches up and the 32 bytes or whatever doesn't matter.