21:58:02 <needmoney90> Did anyone do an analysis of how large a botnet would need to be to attack Monero?
21:58:13 <needmoney90> Like, they aren't using bleeding edge ryzens
21:58:50 <needmoney90> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CjhvMlUw/Screenshot_20200926-145831_Telegram.jpg
21:58:52 <needmoney90> This person is a GPU miner arguing against CPUs
22:28:24 <sech1> The biggest botnet I've seen so far was around 10 MH/s on CN/R which would translate to ~100 MH/s RandomX
22:28:35 <sech1> Everything bigger was cloud mining
22:30:51 <sech1> The biggest botnet I know of right now is the one at xmrpool.eu and it peaks at 35 MH/s
22:31:36 <arctic_monke> hey guys
22:32:49 <arctic_monke> talking about botnets, I'm the IT of a school and our computers got infected and have been mining ethereum for the last weeks
22:33:05 <arctic_monke> we are working with the police and the ISP to identify more victims
22:33:52 <arctic_monke> We already have lots of victim's IPs, is there any way to ask the pools to block this traffic from these IP
22:34:36 <arctic_monke> I know it would be smart to just block outgoing traffic to the pools but we aren't allowed to mess with the schools firewall
22:38:53 <sech1> Pools can block address they mine to
23:35:17 <needmoney90> Sech1, I'm thinking botnets that aren't already targeting crypto
23:35:23 <needmoney90> Or, he is I believe
23:35:57 <needmoney90> So, I'm looking for some ballpark numbers on total hashpower for a large scale botnet
23:36:39 <needmoney90> His point is that these botnets haven't targeted Monero but 'totally could'. I'm looking to generate an estimate of how much theoretical botnet power could actually be pointed here
23:38:19 <moneromooo> Well, 1 GH/s is possible, given the azure hash rate that got pointed at monero.
23:38:28 <moneromooo> And that's enough.
23:38:51 <moneromooo> Do we prefer being pwned by Bitmain of Microsoft ? ^_^
23:45:06 <selsta> needmoney90: why didn't these botnets get targeted to Monero according to them? free money for the operator
23:45:24 <selsta> (if they set them low so that it isn't too noticeable)
23:45:52 <needmoney90> I'm not sure argument-by-obscurity is reasonable here
23:46:16 <needmoney90> when speaking about future threat potential, or gauging latent hashrate that could be pointed towards the network
23:47:08 <needmoney90> moneromooo: The threat potential takes into account price rises, of course. I dont think that a currency of a billion dollar market cap can compete with $100b behemoths (yet)
23:48:38 <needmoney90> Potential latent hashrate available is orthogonal to the future security incentive of the network. And as our security incentive rises, that latent hashrate will, I assume, get pointed to us in proportion
23:49:45 <needmoney90> That is to say, "The total hashpower available in the world won't change drastically in response to security incentive rises in Monero"
23:50:12 <moneromooo> If you're asking me particularly about this... no idea :D
23:50:27 <needmoney90> Nah, you just asked if I'd prefer to be pwned by bitmain or microsoft
23:50:47 <moneromooo> Oh. About this. I don't know really.
23:50:51 <needmoney90> and im pointing out that my question is more to gauge future potential resistance to those attacks, and not our current resistance
23:50:56 <moneromooo> Both seem like a bad deal :/
23:51:26 <moneromooo> Ah, so you are assuming that if monero were much more expensive, its hash rate would possibly go beyond what cloud could provide ?
23:52:22 <moneromooo> If that's what you meant, then it's an interesting point. I've no idea how much htey would wallop with.
23:55:00 <moneromooo> Seems maybe chicken and egg though. To grow, it needs to be secure.
23:55:16 <moneromooo> And it turns out nothing is really.