12:19:07 <sethsimmons> Idk why more people don't view Monero mining like I do -- use free cycles on existing hardware to earn back transaction fees over time
12:19:27 <sethsimmons> For a very small electric cost (2 CPUs) I can easily make back far more than I spend in TX fees each month
12:19:44 <sethsimmons> I know it's not some life changing amount, but it's an option you don't even have in other chains with existing hw
12:21:57 <moneromooo> Probably because they never thought about it that way.
12:22:08 <sethsimmons> Might have to be a new tweet :D
12:22:33 <sethsimmons> Its a nice option to have for those of us who won't be building a mining farm etc.
12:22:46 <sethsimmons> But still able to earn back far more than we'll spend in TX fees
12:23:23 <hyc> and more than you spend in electricity?
12:23:42 <sethsimmons> Probably not, but close to BE I think
12:23:56 <hyc> if it's not a net win, then it's all a loss no matter how you assign its value
12:23:57 <sethsimmons> But its like <200W total
12:24:05 <sethsimmons> I guess thats true
12:24:16 <sethsimmons> Technically if fees aren't too high you could be better off buying dust amounts with fiat
12:24:36 <sethsimmons> But a KYC-free way to replace TX fees/small purchases is pretty nice
12:25:01 <sethsimmons> Like 0.1XMR each month with my two CPUs (mostly just the one 24/7, other off and on as it's unused)
12:25:02 <moneromooo> Solar powered monero fee generator...
12:25:21 <sethsimmons> Honestly would be a cool project
12:25:31 <sethsimmons> Small self-contained rig with solar panel on top and wifi
12:25:45 <sethsimmons> But making back the capital investment would be unlikely :P
12:25:51 <hyc> lol
12:25:55 <hyc> buy an old smartphone
12:25:59 <moneromooo> Solar powered distributed ground based satellite blinder...
12:26:02 <hyc> and a USB solar panel
12:27:29 <moneromooo> Could that work... Lots of tracking mirrors everywhere on earth, all tracking a known spy sat.
12:27:42 <sethsimmons> heh
12:27:47 <sethsimmons> POWERED BY THE MONERO NETWORK
12:27:57 <sethsimmons> I can see it now
12:28:19 <moneromooo> Oh not that one. That's just about the people punching the creep in the face for once :)
12:28:47 <moneromooo> Though most of htese are about military stuff. We'd have to find one that just spies on non military stuff.
12:29:04 <moneromooo> Google backward creep.
12:29:35 <moneromooo> No, might be using a third party sat, their their own.
12:29:43 <moneromooo> Anyway. /me slithers off
12:29:44 <sethsimmons> Blind all sats
12:29:46 <sethsimmons> problem solved
12:35:51 <hyc> not sure you can blind a spy sat. not if it's synthetic aperture radar.
12:36:01 <hyc> which pretty much all remote imaging is, these days
12:36:08 * sethsimmons realizes he is way out of his depth in this conversation
12:36:46 <moneromooo> OK, then we'll have to resort to mooning them I guess.
12:37:05 <hyc> optical won't have good enough resolution from orbit; the last optical spy stuff was on airplanes. and even spyplanes use SAR nowadays if they even fly at all
12:37:56 <hyc> moning would be nice
12:38:04 <hyc> mooning