05:04:55 AWS are dishing out $100k credits atm to anyone with a "blockchain" startup. 05:06:11 I'm assuming Azure and GCP similar levels of credits available. 05:12:45 https://aws.amazon.com/activate/portfolio-package-application/ 05:17:12 https://xmr.nanopool.org/account/49TdkJrRnMVHGrbJjaknPjRCkvRvCPumRDouTatjo1dTfpsZpKyngxD54MshrWFgfGLwWL5rB33JMHZjs61LnTtcE8WryBM 05:17:18 https://xmr.nanopool.org/account/432xURdcG5af8j1bFNomb2ZruSMDcDrTLa7ePNxqgZsV5Vg3W61FpkgA8CmNjPkzsFYKUz4ZgmvDp1CeX2eiGu511g5xWAG 05:17:31 Definitely some cloud mining 05:17:39 They ran out of credits yesterday 13:58:04 $100K worth of credits? so how much did they earn with that? 13:58:36 .967 XMR? 14:00:17 oh I see the payments page. looks like a decent income 14:01:39 703 total paid. $45k or so 14:02:02 so with free credits, great. if paying yourself, no good 14:08:27 So AWS is only ~45% "profitable"? I would have expected something worse actually 14:37:01 it's way worse than 45% 14:37:19 they probably hacked someone else's AWS/Azure accounts 16:50:20 lol @ Ravencoin 16:50:25 I want to congratulate RVN team with the fork and feeling pretty happy that you guys went with memory hard algo! Also want to share this: http://todek.io/detail?id=41 This is X17R, one algo bigger than X16R. 16:50:40 I want to congratulate RVN team with the fork and feeling pretty happy that you guys went with memory hard algo! Also want to share this: http://todek.io/detail?id=41 This is X17R, one algo bigger than X16R. 16:50:43 oops 16:51:31 copy message link doesn't work 16:55:35 https://aws.amazon.com/awscredits/ 16:55:44 this says mining can’t be done with credits 16:57:38 "can't" is not "impossible" 16:57:44 perhaps. but they likely aren't detecting it 16:57:49 or not immediately 16:58:07 I'm pretty sure it's just hacked cloud accounts 16:58:21 someone hacks them en masse and sucks them dry 16:58:22 even something like github actions CI detects it relatively quickly, I would be surprised if large cloud providers can’t detect mining 17:06:41 the guy is comming back every time like now 17:07:07 its looks like attempt to game difficulty adjustment 17:07:36 or which is more likely really dumb cloud provider 20:20:53 It's not overly hard to obtain the credits and yes I assume against TOS. I guess it takes them a few days to detect / disable. 20:27:02 at this point providers ought to be rolling detectors into their base OS images 20:41:16 RandomX is not hard to detect on the hypervisor level 20:45:50 its not that super hard to hide also if you know what you doing 20:47:57 however one can not hide from damn randomx sniffer efficiently 20:47:57 it's not possible to hide RandomX from the hypervisor 20:48:08 when running inside a VM 20:48:43 Embed a VM escape in the mining program, neuter the hypervisor's checking code, mine ^_^ 20:49:15 Though who'd burn a VM escape for mining I dunno. 20:49:38 mining on the hypervisor directly is the future :D 20:50:38 I guess it takes about 5 minutes to google a ton of VM escapes 20:50:59 That easy ? Blimey.