03:41:06 <gingeropolous> well we knew that was possible with .... really any kind of PoW at this point.
14:05:19 <hyc> great, now we have ACM against us https://twitter.com/martinkl/status/1277934863996387331
14:07:53 <sech1> arguably, current banking system consumes more power than Bitcoin miners
14:08:53 <hyc> yes... but easy to argue against running both systems at once
14:10:10 <sech1> actually they're only against using PoW "for supply chain management purposes (e.g., electronic product passports)"
18:34:47 <gethh> they can use pow for anything, just tie it periodically to BTC POW , you do not need hundreds pows
18:37:40 <gethh> you can just use it so no one will simply rewrite whole chain without expending energy (PoS utopia) and fool you into some fake data
19:02:02 <selsta> does this comment about randomx-sniffer make sense? https://reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/hhwu2i/_/fwi5v83/
19:06:55 <sech1> yes
19:07:25 <selsta> I mean yes, obviously malware can bypass AV programs
19:07:42 <sech1> making randomx-sniffer trigger on every process in the system makes it useless, yes
19:07:57 <sech1> but actively messing with other processes gives away your malware even easier
19:08:32 <selsta> but could a cloud provider check the CPU registers from outside
19:08:48 <selsta> and notify the user if mining is detected?
19:18:13 <sech1> on the other hand, if randomx-sniffer detects rounding mode changes where they're not supposed to happen... this is also a sign
19:18:37 <sech1> it can't pinpoint the exact process which is mining, but it's enough to raise a general alarm
19:19:04 <sech1> so that comment makes sense and at the same time it doesn't
20:08:04 <hyc> "executable don't need to be on the infected machine" - interesting point. xfer'ing a blob from a remote host for every nonce sounds kinda slow tho
20:30:54 <sech1> binaries can be run from memory without files on disk, they only need to be downloaded once after each reboot