Interesting example of what ASIC producers can do these times during Corona. Handshake (HNS) coin was launched on Feb 3rd: hnsxplorer.com/block/0

ASIC already shipped to customer on Jun 9th: youtube.com/watch?v=QxNsZ6WTI4o

Their daily emission in $$$ is around 40% of XMR's

Their algo is Blake2b + SHA3, so very simple to make an ASIC

sounds like they just took low hanging fruit

I just ordered something on amazon yesterday, it's shipping from China. won't get here till beginning of August.

wowario[m]: wownero is going sha3?

tevador, no, probably not

definitely not for at least 9 months, and still probably not at all

seems not very popular among the populace

you would get raped by FPGAs immediately

yea, I am kind of working with a hardware guy to see about producing an opensource FPGA implementation that would run on cheapish boards

but there already a lot of those F1s floating around

Is there an estimate about the degree of centralization regarding FPGAs ? ie, is there a known massive farm that can outmine everyone else, say ?

have a look at Aeon: miningpoolstats.stream/aeon

moneromooo, I don't really think so

the amount of fpgas that are used to mine is probably a small fraction of the total amount capable of mining in the world

probably more than CPUs and GPUs, but I would still guess far less than 0.1%

it seems like the FPGAs that end up in "miner" FPGAs are always grey market

Ouch. Even worse than monero :S

which means they are labeled as being deprecated parts if they are still in stock and/or listed on a place like digikey

Yeah, I'm not really interested in the "what if the entire world start mining" extreme. Just the plausible range.

but apparently there is a huge market for these things if you are willing to go to Shenzen and buy in bulk

the whole Aeon network is probably equal to one 1000 W ASIC

Actually, extreme is also useful.

well, if there was an open source implemenation that worked on a range, or at least a few, lower end parts the idea is that it would be accessible to many more people than those that purchased "miner" FPGAs

Weird. That website says 100 of the last 100 blocks were found by two pools, yet they allegedly total ~ 7 TH/s and the network diff is at more than 12.

according to these guys it is a 10B USD industry

That's quite a change.

moneromooo: it's probably due to large hashrate fluctuations, i.e. some miners game the difficulty adjustment process

exactly the opposite of what everyone used to say

yea, that does kind of turn the typical argument on its head tevador

tevador: going sha3 is not settled yet... depends on availability of open source hardware by next year

toned down randomx or equix/hashx still a possibility

report on top 5 bitcoin asic makers blog.bitmex.com/battle-for-asic-supremacy

they all seem to be in dire straits

contrary to what people claim about commoditization driving competition and increasing consumer choices,

it's all consolidating

just to remind you that intentionally going ASIC-friendly is just cutting your own throat

objectively that doesn't seem to be the case with bitcoin mining companies right at this moment

there's two public companies now competing with bitmain, along with innosilicon

and bitfury is supplying a public mining company in canada with hardware

yes, none of them seem to be doing that great financially, but it is still a better situation than bitmain monopolizing the market for years

it seems like bitmain is having its own struggles lately

true, internal coup or something

all the more reason to want to have nothing to do with any such companies