17:38:14 <needbrrrrrrr90> http://globalboost-y.com/
17:38:32 <needbrrrrrrr90> So on an asic resistance thread, some dude posted a link to this garbage
17:38:51 <needbrrrrrrr90> And I knee-jerk banned him, because it looked like automated spam
17:39:09 <needbrrrrrrr90> Then looked closer and they do claim asic resistance, but I can't find anywhere that says what they use
17:39:30 <needbrrrrrrr90> I'm trying to evaluate whether the ban was unreasonable or not, can someone take a look?
17:40:10 <tevador> it's right there on the front page: POW yescript GPU, ASIC & FPGA resistant
17:40:22 <needbrrrrrrr90> What is yescrypt
17:41:00 <tevador> https://www.openwall.com/yescrypt/
17:41:08 <tevador> it's not actually ASIC resistant
17:41:10 <needbrrrrrrr90> First I'm hearing of it, I assumed it was marketing speak
17:41:32 <needbrrrrrrr90> Ah thanks, that's what I was looking for
17:41:49 <needbrrrrrrr90> So it's not actually novel and they're calling their security by obscurity resistance
17:41:55 <needbrrrrrrr90> Yeah the removal was reasonable then
17:42:00 <tevador> IIRC they made a variant called yespower that was supposed to be used for cryptomining
17:42:44 <needbrrrrrrr90> Is this reasonable discussion in asic resistance threads, or just security by obscurity?
17:43:14 <tevador> I think it's reasonable to discuss it
17:43:21 <tevador> here is yespower: https://www.openwall.com/yespower/
17:43:39 <tevador> "yespower in particular is designed to be CPU-friendly, GPU-unfriendly, and FPGA/ASIC-neutral"
17:45:25 <needbrrrrrrr90> So it's not asic resistant?
17:45:44 <needbrrrrrrr90> https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/ggdp8e/z/fq2gwzn
17:45:49 <needbrrrrrrr90> There is the comment btw
17:46:01 <needbrrrrrrr90> I've approved it now, I'll remove the ban at some point soon
17:46:05 <needbrrrrrrr90> Can't do it from mobile
17:46:54 <tevador> the yespower website has some "ASIC resistance" definition and explains what they mean by it
17:47:40 <tevador> I think all these projects are similar to Litecoin in 2011 - someone said it's ASIC resistant, so it must be
17:47:51 <tevador> until ASICs showed up
17:49:03 <tevador> I had a look at the source code, it's similar to scrypt, but it a lot more optimized for AVX, so it runs well on CPUs, that's all
17:49:19 <tevador> no magic sauce other than that
18:44:47 <hyc> seems like a useless comment
18:45:13 <hyc> it doesn't add to the discussion at all
18:52:40 <needbrrrrrrr90> hyc: The question is whether it's on topic. And the libertarian base of the subreddit gets pissy when anything on topic gets removed, even if its useless/stupid. In this case I can see them arguing that 'newbies might want to know that its not actually asic resistant! We need our community to set everyone else straight!'
18:53:25 <needbrrrrrrr90> there's a lot of stuff that, if I was dictator with no accountability, I would remove in a heartbeat. Unfortunately the mods are stewards, not dictators :/
18:55:35 <moneromooo> You could make another called monero-quality-discussions, where you deep six the crap, and enjoy seeing spammers whinge ^_^.
18:58:10 <needbrrrrrrr90> oh, I actually have two telegram channels that I rule with an iron fist
18:58:19 <needbrrrrrrr90> absolutely unaccountable for my moderation actions, its great
18:58:37 <needbrrrrrrr90> lots of quality discussion, people even compliment the rooms for being topical :)
20:44:03 <hyc> nice
20:44:27 <hyc> I personally would lean toward the latter. I'm interested in facts and solid info, not BS.
20:45:06 <hyc> on the openldap mailing lists I have some subscribers on permanent moderation because 99% of their posts are inane or even indecipherable
20:45:35 <hyc> once in a while they respond to someone else with a relevant question. once in a very long while. the rest of their posts I just discard immediately