16:35:39 <gingeropolous> ok, so binding to just x86 is not a good move... so, what can be done to further binding to consumer hardware?
17:42:06 <hyc> I think we've done enough for now. the only way to say what should be changed is to see how consumer hardware changes in future generations of tech
17:42:37 <hyc> there've been a lot of moves to integrate FPGAs onto motherboards and CPUs, but those have only been in high end servers
17:42:56 <hyc> sometimes that sort of thing trickles down into consumer space. in this instance I doubt it will
17:53:47 <gingeropolous> while I agree that "we;ve done enough for now", I'd like to keep the conversation going. During the recent effort to defend against ASICs, there was a strong notion that RandomX was the end of the odyssey, and that if further mods were made, consumer hardware should be abandoned entirely
17:54:33 <gingeropolous> so I imagine we can integrate changes that are anticipatory as opposed to reactionary
17:55:32 <gingeropolous> because reactionary changes have the problem of some cabal deciding to thwart the financial something or other of someone else
17:55:42 <gingeropolous> and apparently that gets into legal hullamaboo.
17:56:44 <gingeropolous> however, if we stay one step ahead, then its not a cabal... its just protocol development / improvement i guess
17:57:28 <gingeropolous> hullumaballoo
17:59:18 <hyc> The big trends in mobile phones now are AI coprocessors
18:00:24 <hyc> you could look at their market penetration and see if they're going to become a thing
19:42:36 <gingeropolous> yeah, i guess phone hardware in general would be a good thing to keep an eye on and target
19:46:11 <gingeropolous> total miners 34145