02:00:10 <hyc> blah blah blah. and they still trot out the BS about committing to change the PoW every 6 months
02:21:39 <gingeropolous> total miners 28296
02:21:49 <gingeropolous> i am a bot
02:25:00 <moneromooo> gingeropolous: START AUTO/open[$6]:,A*/2+close(-)SYNC/CANCEL:PRG("b9ac4ad02f")://8+
02:25:40 <moneromooo> OK, you're confirmed not a bot.
02:38:34 <hyc> we may have Graviton 2 benchmark results incoming https://twitter.com/_msw_/status/1204953215730479104
04:58:42 <gingeropolous> so whats the deal with mining software in the app stores?
08:44:54 <sech1> tevador https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/e9kjx6/randomx_malware/
13:49:42 <gingeropolous> gui integration would be cool
13:58:15 <moneromooo> Adding a malware sniffer in the GUI ? Or am I missing some context ?
14:03:36 <gingeropolous> the reddit link. but yeah thats the idea.
14:03:44 <gingeropolous> not any malware, just specifically randomx mining malware
14:05:05 <moneromooo> The vast majority of people with malware would not be running the GUI, would they ?
14:05:46 <moneromooo> And pretty much the only way they'd end up downloading the GUI instead of an AV is if they already found it's monero related malware.
14:08:47 <gingeropolous> well, a good botnet always checks to see if the host is already compromised , and will take measures to insure that it is not overtaken by a rival botnet
14:08:56 <gingeropolous> and in some sense, monero is an opt in botnet
14:09:22 <gingeropolous> well, any p2p network software really
14:21:12 <selsta> tbh I find it out of scope for the GUI :P
14:21:21 <selsta> AV software should add this
14:44:58 <moneromooo> Or a separate simple detector Qt UI.
14:52:26 <kico> usually miners won't run wallets on the workers
14:52:33 <kico> nor nodes
14:53:16 <kico> would be useful for users who mine on they're main machine/laptop
14:53:34 <kico> their*
15:02:37 <moneromooo> If you have malware, the likelihood it's one with randomx is pretty small, no ?
15:03:29 <moneromooo> So sure, it might help people who have malware that uses randomx and who also use the monero GUI, but that's going to be a pretty small population.
15:06:23 <sgp_> I have not heard back from Trend Micro about a press release
15:10:35 <sech1> double_facepalm.jpg https://eng.ambcrypto.com/monero-profitability-drops-to-new-lows-post-randomx-upgrade/
16:02:11 <sech1> Zen2 optimization manual, finally https://developer.amd.com/wp-content/resources/56305_SOG_3.00_PUB.pdf
16:50:13 <tevador> randomx sniffer is a proof of concept, it's supposed to be integrated into AV software
16:51:55 <tevador> that profitability article: bullshit-o-meter off scale
17:06:48 <Inge-> sech1: interesting to see what you get out of that manual.
17:36:56 <kinghat> https://www.anandtech.com/show/15228/samsung-to-use-riscv-cores
17:41:40 <tevador> RISC-V JIT for RandomX should not be particularly difficult to implement
18:12:41 <hyc> that announcement is about Samsung using it in modems. not in application processors.
18:13:03 <hyc> No phone will be running a mobilephone OS on their Risc-v cores
18:13:30 <hyc> no end users will be able to execute code on those processors
18:14:31 <hyc> the other problem with targeting any application code to run on RISC-V is deciding which instruction sets to support. or instruction set extensions.
18:14:39 <hyc> the base set of instructions is quite bare.
18:17:19 <kinghat> i cant wait till we can put whatever OS we want on our phones, like PCs.
18:19:56 <tevador> hopefully crypto extensions will become a standard soon
18:20:08 <tevador> on all architectures
18:20:32 <tevador> (Broadcom will be the last one to adopt it
18:32:35 <hyc> still no idea why they omitted it. perhaps they had their own proprietary crypto engine
18:35:47 <hyc> I see no crypto extensions in the RISC-V architecture docs
20:53:04 <sech1> 9640 h/s in Windows
20:53:16 <sech1> faster than in Linux, even without 1 GB pages
20:53:24 <sech1> I found a way to write MSR registers there
20:54:42 <sech1> So Windows is somehow 20 h/s faster, hmm...
20:56:13 <sech1> restarted XMRig and it's 9655 h/s now, no idea why :D
20:59:26 <hyc> knowing windows, it's probably losing clock interrupts
20:59:48 <hyc> so you're measured rate keeps increasing because its clock has slowed down
21:00:04 <hyc> *your
21:00:49 <hyc> benching on windows is always a pain, trying to isolate background processes, etc
21:01:31 <sech1> No, I think it's just the old behavior where hashrate varies between launches
21:01:38 <sech1> I had this on Windows since forever
21:02:15 <hyc> yeah, very non-repeatable platform
21:02:15 <sech1> but damn, setting MSR registers is actually easy, and I only use tools from Microsoft themselves :D
21:02:45 <sech1> I'll prepare a guide soon
21:04:36 <sech1> yep, works like a charm
21:04:43 <sech1> just tested after reboot
21:04:49 <sech1> 9655 h/s again
21:22:39 <sech1> https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining/comments/e9tuvd/randomx_boost_guide_for_ryzen_on_windows_9100_hs/
21:47:04 <tevador> cool
21:47:13 <sech1> can you test it?
21:47:21 <sech1> It works on my machine (c)
21:47:52 <tevador> I don't have windows on my AMD rigs
21:48:48 <tevador> we need MSRs for Intel also
21:50:25 <cohcho> Do you mean additional MSRs to that 0x1a4?
21:51:46 <gingeropolous> hrm, how to set 1 gb on 4 opterons
21:52:37 <sech1> MSR for Intel are not that important because they all can just disable prefetchers in BIOS
21:55:59 <gingeropolous> running as sudo didn't do it
21:57:22 <sech1> you need to have 3x1GB per NUMA node
21:57:27 <sech1> 3x1GB pages
21:58:15 <sech1> and of course enough free memory for it
21:59:40 <gingeropolous> i gots it
21:59:42 <hyc> can you assign NUMA nodes on kernel cmd line?
22:00:02 <hyc> can you assign hugepages per node...
22:00:03 <gingeropolous> also, sech1, when my 64 thread thing runs, it only autoconfigs 56 threads
22:00:47 <sech1> Turn off HT assist in BIOS. It uses some 4 MB L3 cache per CPU, so you get fewer threads in autoconfig
22:01:03 <gingeropolous> smash bios
22:02:59 <gingeropolous> hrm, so it seems to have loaded the 1gb thing if i run with sudo
22:03:26 <gingeropolous> but is it actually doing it? do i actually need to mod grub and other sys files etc
22:04:07 <sech1> if it works with sudo and prints "allocated 3072 MB ... 3/3 +JIT" or something like this, you're good
22:04:16 <hyc> if cat /proc/meminfo shows you have 1GB pages, then you're probably fine
22:05:01 <hyc> on my laptop it wouldn't do it without modding grub config
22:06:08 <sech1> grub config is more robust because it allocates 1GB pages early during boot process
22:06:11 <gingeropolous> yeah im at the same hr on my 6276s
22:06:35 <gingeropolous> even though proc/meminfo shows 1 gb pages
22:08:21 <gingeropolous> guess i gotta figure out how to mod grub config
22:08:43 <hyc> if meinfo shows 1GB pages, doesn't sound like it will make much diff
22:08:51 <hyc> how much free RAM are you showing at the moment?
22:09:19 <gingeropolous> 16G
22:09:34 <gingeropolous> i got 64 total. maybe i gotta disable the HT
22:09:41 <hyc> it shouldn't have had any trouble allocating a few 1GB pages then
22:14:05 <tevador> sech1: my laptop's BIOS doesn't have the option to disable prefetch
22:15:01 <sech1> then just set MSR 0x1A4 to 6
22:15:25 <sech1> or run this: https://github.com/xmrig/xmrig/blob/dev/scripts/randomx_boost.sh
22:15:28 <sech1> with sudo of course
22:17:43 <tevador> windows
22:18:09 <tevador> I will modify your ryzen script and test it
22:27:06 <hyc> on a completely different note, I donated my randomX XMR to openprivacy
22:49:50 <hyc> interesting article on Marvell ThunderX2 https://www.nextplatform.com/2019/12/10/looking-ahead-to-marvells-future-thunderx-processors/
22:53:42 <hyc> claims their ThunderX3 will be significantly more efficient than AMD Rome
22:53:59 <hyc> all on TSMC 7nm
22:55:37 <sech1> Nice, nice
22:57:02 <sech1> We need to push RandomX tests to https://www.servethehome.com/ when they get it for testing
22:57:27 <hyc> ah, definitely
22:57:56 <sech1> They do Chess benchmarking, so why not mining benchmarking?
22:58:01 <Inge-> one guy on the monero mining TG claims about 15.5KH/s on 3900x
22:58:38 <sech1> It's possible with MSR mod
22:58:51 <sech1> I've seen 14+ kh/s even without the mod
22:59:15 <sech1> But 15.5 kh/s... It's 1290 h/s per core, very fast
22:59:28 <sech1> It should be running at 4.2 GHz or faster
22:59:31 <Inge-> yeah it was way past efficiency
23:00:01 <sech1> More likely 4.3 GHz or faster + super tuned RAM
23:00:10 <Inge-> his regular setting was 1.175v 14.4KH/S
23:00:22 <Inge-> and yes, 3400-14-14-14-28 with IF at 1700
23:01:38 <sech1> I'm waiting for the guy with 3950X who got almost 17 kh/s
23:01:45 <sech1> He said he would try MSR mod tomorrow
23:02:02 <hyc> 3400? so he still has headroom, getting to 3600 / 1800
23:02:41 <sech1> Not all Ryzens can handle 3600/1800
23:03:04 <sech1> And RandomX is very sensitive to FCLK instability
23:03:10 <hyc> I suppose. his seems to be doing well though
23:11:22 <hyc> I sent a note to servethehome contact page
23:34:49 <sech1> 17.4 kh/s on 3950X: https://imgur.com/a/9nHQDkO