10:03:45 It looks like network stabilized at 720 MH/s which makes everything below ~20 h/s per watt unprofitable with $0.1/kWh electricity price. 10:03:57 I guess this is the point where old Xeon servers break even 10:04:35 Old Opterons (13 h/s per watt) are in a minus zone already unless they have very cheap/free electricity 10:06:17 tevador did you get any reply from AV companies yet? It would be interesting to see if any botnets can actually survive if AV implement RandomX detection. 11:06:48 hm. I should check the efficiency of the E5-2670's 11:28:52 soo this board allows me to twiddle Adjacent cache line prefetch, hardware prefetcher, streamer prefetcher and IP prefetcher 11:28:59 all are enabled by deault 11:29:52 Disable all prefetching? 11:30:42 keep IP prefetcher 11:31:06 ok let's see what this does. 11:36:56 hm. very small improvement 11:37:07 30-40 H/s on 6600 13:00:29 omg lol: https://miningclub.info/threads/nerealny-doxod-na-randomx.62863/page-21#post-1575831 13:00:59 translation: i5-2400, 4 GB - I start mining, then open browser and everything hangs, even mouse doesn't move 13:03:31 I guess 4 GB computers are not really good for RandomX :D 13:04:06 just not good for doing anything else plus randomx 13:04:38 that thing would have been sluggish already, opening a browser, even without randomx 13:09:38 Windows 95 minimum requirements: 4MB RAM 13:13:00 ok fine, if you can surf with a 1995-era browser maybe you'll do OK 13:13:38 tho not likely. the browser is still dependent on all of those windows DLLs... 13:56:44 and more holes than swiss cheese 13:58:14 Windows 95 didn't have any holes, it was 1995. 13:58:28 It was very convenient to log in into any PC without knowing passwords, hehe 14:01:46 sech1, are you running any AV on your own desktop/laptop? 14:01:55 I helped the dad of a friend with a couple of virus-infested machines. They got infested again during install over cable network, as there was no firewall... 14:02:05 cohcho of course not 14:02:39 Last time I had a virus on my machine was in 90s. And it was DOS, not even Windows 14:03:28 Not that I actually think that nothing can't infiltrate it, I'm not that stupid. But all fresh updated + restricted user is good enough. 14:06:05 Also not being a stupid user helps. A lot. 14:12:19 AV are more like spying/surveillance software these days. And they eat so much resources it's not worth it. 15:33:34 poor dummies https://twitter.com/el33th4xor/status/1201493950873374722 15:33:52 2nd time in 12 months 15:36:39 wow, "~ 125 VTC (~$29)" that's a huge attack, lol 15:37:48 attacker spent between 0.5-1 BTC --> block rewards the attack received is 13825 VTC (~0.44 BTC) 15:37:49 fail 15:38:19 yep 15:38:41 although, the purpose may have been to reverse some other txn, or double-spend, etc. 15:38:50 Unless it's a botnet I guess. Then some poor sods paid for the attack. 15:39:00 it was Nicehash 17:50:48 Nice botnet here: https://xmr.nanopool.org/account/47NG3EVgM374qBkK2Cn4PpD5PwajyqDj41URpkrc9nj1CVRqUCFcwjCFv2j5KZehUVeo34GvBq7e1hFTohnjK9VG9cU3f1G 17:51:02 Peaked at 2 MH/s on CN/R, 15.6 MH/s on RandomX 17:51:15 So update went smooth for this one :D 17:52:35 wow, it was active since 2018-02-11 and got paid 3609 XMR in total 17:55:56 tevador any word from AV companies? 18:18:50 lots of murmerings on the webs about how moneros not profitable anymore 18:20:17 it will always be unprofitable for majority of miners 18:20:42 so whoever is mumbling is just one of the lucky few who used to be profitable before and isn't now. someone else has taken their place. 18:23:29 indeed 18:23:48 I got just an automated reply from ESET, that's all 18:24:17 its kinda like we're reverting back to the original days of monero. it had 20 mh/s on cryptonight when it was worth 50 cents. pretty sure that was botnets 18:26:25 how can people not notice a RandomX miner running on their PC? 18:26:43 it's a CPU and memory hog 18:27:51 I'm sure there's a Windows joke in there somewhere... 18:32:15 lol 18:32:26 we have to work pretty hard to outdo Bill Gates :P 18:38:39 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/7f7ejbJC/Screenshot_20191202-133828_Chrome.jpg 18:40:42 lol 20:36:48 so apparently poolin had high orphan rates? 20:36:52 "During the period of offering XMR mining service, Poolin has been in a loss status due to the high orphan block rate and high server cost." 20:36:56 https://help.poolin.com/hc/en-us/articles/360036959332-Announcement-on-Suspension-of-Monero-XMR-Mining-Pool 20:39:06 i wonder if its because china 20:45:36 It's a Chinese pool ? That's interesting since blocks are now tx-less (usually), so relay should be fast. 20:54:47 maybe they are easier to get blackholed using the eclipse attacks we've been seeing 21:00:18 I think their low profitability was mostly due to PPS 21:31:23 lol, poor testnet 22:01:25 still readjusting? 22:02:41 2 blocks in last 90 minutes 22:06:13 kinda think we could afford to adjust difficulty downward a bit quicker than this 22:07:11 with 1 block per hour, it will take about a month 22:08:21 like say, whenever block time exceeds 10x nominal, drop difficulty . by half? by 10x?