64-core Threadripper will be even more memory-bound than 3950X. 64 cores and 4 memory channels vs 16 cores and 2 memory channels.

32-core threadripper more sweet-spot-ish?

2000GB/s L1 cache sounds like an incredbile jump in perf

3dnews.ru keep testing new CPUs in RandomX (10980XE this time): 3dnews.ru/assets/external/illustrations/2019/11/25/998360/chart-4.png

i'll beat them all with my Xeon <3

the 24 core threadripper will probably top out around 25 KH/s and the 32- and 64-core parts won't offer much improvement over that

which model

sech1 is "memory-bound" bandwidth?

and if so are the skylake-x cpus using quad channel in those tests?

no, not bandwidth, but MT/s (transactions per second)

if you read how DRAM works, you'll see that it takes some time to open/close the memory row, which limits how many random reads you can make per second

that's why overclocking the RAM won't help much, but tighter timings help

Interesting... bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5176747.msg53179227#msg53179227

14KH/s @150 Watts at the wall

cool, 93 H/J

depends on the price, though

Regular PC components can also achieve this efficiency, but after lots and lots of tuning

and probably not at 14 KH/s

yeah, I tuned my 3700X to 95 H/J

3900X can probably do >100

Their custom BIOS probably has built-in tuned timings for RAM they use + fixed clock and voltages for CPU

but 14K @ 150W sounds like a good sweet spot

uh oh, its an asic!

I always told 3900X is RandomX asic

this is just packaging

it even has "X" in the name!

i knew you guys worked for amd

Where's my payroll then? Ehh?

i dunno. your prolly gettin paid on MOENRO! SO WE"LL NEVER SEE IT

man. it feels like we're about to witness the final battle after a long war.

well no. shame on me. ive never seen war. internet, delete that statement.

7x7 inches sounds like a micro ITX board with pico PSU

these boards are not cheap

7x7 is mini-ITX

yeah, I meant mini itx

2 times the price of micro-ATX boards

they could probably sell this machine for $1000

so now we know the reason for the shortages of 3900Xs :P

btw it looks like the 10x faster share verification with RandomX will reduce the operating costs of pools, which is a good thing for decentralization

^ yes

tevador: thanks