11:38:22 <ErCiccione[m]1> Accordin to a Tails dev, reproducible builds are not a requirement to be added to Debian. I thought the opposite, anybody can confirm?
11:38:39 <ErCiccione[m]1> for reference: https://gitlab.tails.boum.org/tails/tails/-/issues/17823#note_153118
11:45:25 <moneromooo> Guest48395: debian has their own repro build system, whether upstream has repro builds or not.
11:56:55 <ErCiccione> Alright, but it's unclear to me if the GUI in its current state could have working reproducible builds on debian. I guess debian folks would have to work on that to make it work.
11:58:42 <ErCiccione> Or in other words: what should we do to have the GUI in Debian? Even if not in stabel, would be already something to have it on testing and unstable, as it is for the CLI
13:33:26 <dsc_> https://lobste.rs/s/ha8c42/you_don_t_need_reproducible_builds
13:33:35 * dsc_ runs awayyyy
13:36:23 <sarang> I don't really get his "you always need to trust the vendor in the end" argument
13:36:37 <sarang> If part of the recommended user workflow is to verify hashes (with signatures), then this isn't the case
13:36:53 <sarang> all the "vendor" (in this case, the download server) does here is provide bandwidth
13:37:41 <sarang> And repro builds don't replace the need for quality review... they're part of defense in depth
13:38:25 <sarang> We already ideally have multiple people review PRs... this is just the binary equivalent of that
13:39:15 <moneromooo> That looks like the "it doesn't solve everything, therefore it's useless" argument.
13:39:46 <moneromooo> I'd slap people who do this, except I do it myself from time to time...
13:40:47 <sarang> The counterargument of "why would you _want_ a build that isn't the same every time" is an interesting one that I hadn't really specifically considered before, but I like it
14:18:20 <luigi1111w> moneromooo easy, just slap yourself sometimes too
14:31:42 <moneromooo> Genius!
21:45:38 -xmr-pr- xiphon opened pull request #3032: Wallet: WalletManager: implement proxy support
21:45:38 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/3032
22:00:38 -xmr-pr- xiphon opened pull request #3033: main: socks5 proxy support 
22:00:38 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/3033