04:28:24 <gingeropolous> <moneromooo> Since CLSAG's been ignored again, we could have a full release without consensus changes. >> there will still be a consensus version change, so everyone has to update, right?
10:20:16 <dEBRUYNE> gingeropolous: As far as I know, there will be no features that require a consensus change
12:15:10 <gingeropolous> right, but I thought the idea was that we would still do a version bump
12:18:12 <gingeropolous> to maintain the behavior momentum of network participants to update software
12:22:19 <gingeropolous> because the network is more secure / maintainable if everyone is running the same code. 
15:33:37 <dEBRUYNE> I kind of doubt the benefit of that outweighs the detriments from everyone (in particular services and exchanges) having to upgrade
15:57:45 <gingeropolous> i ponder how that scale works
22:02:53 <selsta> would also prefer no hardfork
22:03:27 <selsta> it’s always exhausting for everyone involved (users, devs, exchanges)
22:35:23 <selsta> ErCiccione[m]: Can I get a list of translators?