01:11:13 <Snipa> Hah, nothing quite so absurd, PC decided to up and die over the weekend that I keep my keys on, so rebuilt, but needed to get the keys out of cold storage.
01:54:10 <selsta> .merge+ #2615
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08:17:44 <selsta> .merge+ #2725 #2726 #2727
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08:17:56 <selsta> .merges
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08:19:19 <Snipa> THe merges never end.
11:07:56 <selsta> .merge+ #2728 #2729
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12:17:58 <selsta> .merge+ #2730
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12:37:42 <gingeropolous> does the GUI automagically work on android?
12:37:51 <selsta> no
12:37:59 <selsta> well yes if your screen is large enough
12:38:05 <selsta> but there is no mobile ui
12:38:29 <gingeropolous> gotcha. so the software architecture would work, its just that there's no "mobile" subset of how things should look and work as of now
12:39:43 <selsta> Jaquee created an UI but it went unmaintained so we removed it
12:39:51 <gingeropolous> oooh yeah
12:39:51 <selsta> it probably needed an mobile first UI concept anyway
12:40:40 <gingeropolous> what do you mean
12:41:04 <selsta> taking the desktop UI and trying to fit it to mobile usually doesn’t work well
12:41:35 <gingeropolous> ah, so a relatively large overhaul
12:42:22 <selsta> if we want a proper mobile wallet yes
12:42:44 <gingeropolous> i wonder how easy it is to make the network components only work on certain type of networks.. i.e., cellular vs wifi
12:43:30 <gingeropolous> i know i've seen android software do that ( options to only download updates on wifi for example, or google drive only sync on wifi etc)
12:44:24 <selsta> looks possible https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qnetworkconfiguration.html#BearerType-enum
12:44:38 <selsta> worst case is writing android / ios code by hand
12:44:58 <gingeropolous> hrm
12:45:52 <gingeropolous> i wonder if moneromooo would be happy with the idea of full pruning for a phone node. I mean, 25ish gigs isn't huge..... but its also not small.
12:46:08 <selsta> running a full pruned node doesn’t require GUI?
12:46:24 <gingeropolous> ?
12:46:54 <gingeropolous> so, currently you run can a full node on a phone (with cli), you could run a pruned node on a phone (with cli).
12:47:00 <selsta> yes
12:47:16 <moneromooo> Full as in not even a seventh ?
12:47:20 <gingeropolous> but nowhere in the daemon code is the ability for full prune. you always keep 1/8th of the chain
12:47:21 <moneromooo> Eigth.
12:47:22 <gingeropolous> yeah
12:47:25 <moneromooo> eighth.
12:48:08 <moneromooo> Not super wild about it. You'd gain an extra... (75-25) / 7
12:48:39 <moneromooo> So it's still ~18 GB.
12:48:52 <moneromooo> And you become totally useless.
12:50:00 <selsta> yep does not sound worth it
12:50:13 <selsta> the amount of users who would run a node on a phone is super small anyway
12:51:02 <moneromooo> There are other ways to make a light node if you're going to be useless.
13:07:04 <selsta> .merges
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13:31:44 <gingeropolous> i dunno. smart phone penetration is quite high. id say for most of the world its their only compute device
13:32:07 <gingeropolous> and we're effectively forcing these folks to rely on trusted third parties... ?
13:32:49 <selsta> Like you said, they can run a node on Android.
13:33:05 <gingeropolous> right. 
13:33:40 <selsta> getmonero.org even offers prebuilt bins now :D
13:33:57 <gingeropolous> expecting a phone node to serve as a sync server or relay though... seems a bit much
13:34:12 <selsta> ?
13:34:12 <gingeropolous> just regarding data usage. 
13:34:44 <gingeropolous> i mean, what are the stats on daily data usage for a node running in standard mode, well integrated into the network?
13:36:42 <selsta> Can’t they simply limit connections / bandwidth?
13:37:23 <gingeropolous> right. and i don't think you could get any incoming connections with mobile anyway
13:40:10 <selsta> I still think a light wallet server would make most sense on mobile. A node would kill your battery life.
13:40:22 <selsta> Although hyc has been running a node on his phone fine :P
16:37:46 * jonathancross sent a long message:  < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/jymAicPWaOYsrhznEQsmMNCp >
17:47:53 <kinghat> does the gui use flexbox layout styling?
17:59:44 <luigi1111> I flex all over those bots
18:38:56 <gingeropolous> jonathancross, hycs running cli afaik
18:39:23 <gingeropolous> in your longpost, you mention connecting to a remote node.... again, some high % only have phones. there no remote node to connect to .
18:39:37 <gingeropolous>  we're working with the theory that the individual wants to be as trustless as possible, so random public node won't do
20:51:48 <selsta> kinghat: flexbox = CSS? no
20:53:08 <selsta> luigi1111: hi luigi can we get merges this weekend pls sir