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qorafsssbej
I can tell you why you can't stop the 'spam'. You are thinking in cult doctrine. If it was real spam, and I was selling Viagra for example - you could easily ban keywords and urls. Instead, stop being a sheep, think like a cult leader. Recoginse that this 'spam' is just some bullshit that you tell to the sheep.
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qorafsssbej
When you do that, solution will present itself. Observe. 'spam' -> 'FUK talks bad things about Monero on our IRC' (Don't say that out loud obviously, that will get you excommunicated) Solution? Get off-the-shelf sentiment analyser, detect anyone who 'talks bad things about Monero' and ban them.
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janrummens
I'm not an expert and read some books and did a little gpu mining on Monero
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janrummens
BUT could you point me to a cloud operator where I can lease some hardware mining equipment? No pools please.
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moneromooo
Try #monero, but cloud mining is extremely unlikely to be profitable.
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moneromooo
Especially GPU mining for monero.
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janrummens
yes thanks but want to switch to ryzen
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janrummens
have another question about nounces
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janrummens
I suppose that the nounces are used in monero like in bitcoin.
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janrummens
the generation of nounces is this always incremental?
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moneromooo
Whatever the miner feels like.
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moneromooo
Incremental is just easy/fast.
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janrummens
are the different schemes configurable?
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moneromooo
Sure. With the monerod miner, just replace the ++ with whatever function you want.
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moneromooo
There's not much point though, since you can't tell by looking at the starting nonce whether you'll find a hash below target without actually doing the work.
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janrummens
true, is there some parallellism involved and / of configurable?
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moneromooo
If you're on about fingerprinting the mining software, the monerod miner starts to increment from a random value, so that should not be fingerprintable since only the end nonce gets published.
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moneromooo
Hashing can be parallel, yes. Nonce generation is pointless to make parallel, it's just trivially fast and threaidng it would slow things down a lot.
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moneromooo
Maybe "generation" is a misnonmer, it implies substantial work.
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janrummens
yes indeed meaning hash generation
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moneromooo
Ah, then definitely.
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janrummens
but because it is random it is pure brute force
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moneromooo
Mining is brute force due to the properties of a good hash function.
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janrummens
so in order to be profitable you need to go above a certain threshold with your mining hardware hash generation ability.
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moneromooo
Yes, but since this doesn't seem to be about coding, see #monero for more.
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moneromooo
Unless you have questions about the code :)
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janrummens
not for the moment, though I'm massevly interested in the RandomX mining code and such.
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janrummens
thanks a lot for your time, I will come back with my questions on the code (c/c++ I have seen) if the gods permit it ;-)
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moneromooo
Sure.
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janrummens
Nice documentation by the way on the code around RandomX.
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gingeropolous
so,. because monero's gonna rocket to the moon and we'll inch ever closer to ossification, should we try and get some rough consensus going about that tx_extra?
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gingeropolous
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gingeropolous
im liking the "allow tx_extra in coinbase tx" options. leaves wiggle room, but ensures user-tx uniformity
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hyc
so only miners can stuff something into tx_extra?
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gingeropolous
yeah
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gingeropolous
i mean, it seems to have a rough consensus. I'm just curious if we're at the stage where we throw it really out there (i.e., reddit) to see what further sentiment might exist
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gglgsjzgkxe
Why does the Saviour of NASA take a group achievement award and present it as a proof of individual glory? twitter.com/hyc_symas/status/1203709575226183683
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gingeropolous
master is on xmrchain (v0.17.0.0-dcba757dd)
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sech1
moneromooo how is the password applied when opening wallet? I mean how many passwords/second can be tested?
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sech1
i.e. I want to know the safe password length
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wfaressuissia[m]
cn/0 is bottleneck there
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wfaressuissia[m]
so cn/0 hashes per seconds
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sech1
I think I've found the code but there's also kdf_rounds parameter, so more than 1 cn/0 hash is calculated?
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luigi1111w
I think by default only 1
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moneromooo
Defaults to 1.
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sech1
If I set kdf-rounds from command line when creating the wallet, do I need to set it every time I open it?
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moneromooo
I think so.
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sech1
That's interesting. If cn/0 is used, then those original ASICs can be used to crack weak passwords
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luigi1111w
correct. Still fairly slow I would wager
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sech1
I did some math: given 1 joule/kh spent (2x the efficiency of Antminer X3), price of energy $0.03/kWh, $1 is enough to check 120 billion passwords. $1M is enough to check 120e+15 passwords. 10 characters password [a-zA-Z0-9] should be enough
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PurpleBerries
people use passwords that short? 0_o
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moneromooo
I use 1 character passwords, on the assumption no cracker will think I'm that dumb and start at 2.
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sech1
If the password is random and uses large enough character set, it can be short, but 10 characters is reasonable minimum
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wfaressuissia[m]
just spent 30 minutes and memorize whole secret spend key (only 64 characters)
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Inge-
sech1: the peeps behind hashcat looked at it some years back - and concluded it was pretty difficult
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wfaressuissia[m]
* just spend 30 minutes and memorize whole secret spend key (only 64 characters)
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sech1
No way
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sech1
I spent a few days to memorize Pi to 30 digits
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sech1
Maybe I'm just bad at remembering random numbers...
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moneromooo
Did you go around in circles better after that ?
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selsta
.merges
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xmr-pr
7332 7349 7373 7391
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moneronero
was cryptonote project moved to monero? it seems to be dead since 2015, is there an equivalent project today?
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moneromooo
Monero is based off cryptonote.
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moneromooo
The two have diverged over the years.
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moneromooo
There's a number of forks of more recent CN code AFAIK.
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moneronero
i see
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moneronero
is there any guide on forkin monero just like the cryptonote one? it seems pretty self explanatory, I was reading monero source and it's very big with lots of extra stuff that cryptonote doesn't have
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moneromooo
No.
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selsta
.merge+ 7088 7238 7310 7326 7358 7459 7460 7615 7620 7621 7622 7623 7631 7632 7636 7637 7638
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xmr-pr
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gingeropolous
v0.17.0.0-dcba757dd uptime 0d 6h 42m 17s
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gingeropolous
on xmrchain
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selsta
any concerns with adding
monero-project/monero #7387 ? we tested it on mac and linux and seems to work
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luigi1111w
bruh
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luigi1111w
.merges
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xmr-pr
7088 7238 7310 7326 7332 7349 7358 7373 7391 7459 7460 7615 7620 7621 7622 7623 7631 7632 7636 7637 7638
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luigi1111w
.soon
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mwtqkmmn
“I thought, ‘I’m going to pump it and dump it,’ because I was interested and taking the ideas and implementing them in bitcoin. The bitcoin code base was far more interesting to me than monero, and I thought, ‘I’m not going to work on this codebase, it’s terrible,'” he recalls - fluffypony in an interview about Monero
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moneromooo
If it works, why not.
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selsta
functional tests will require 2 new python dependencies is the downside
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selsta
but cmake will skip the test if they are missing like with requests
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moneromooo
Common ones ? If it's stuff that doesn't come in OS packages, it looks like a bad idea.
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selsta
psutil monotonic
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selsta
not sure how "common" they are
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iDunk
mingw-w64-x86_64-python-psutil & mingw-w64-x86_64-python-monotonic in MSYS2.
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selsta
iDunk: could you test if 7387 breaks functional tests on windows? I never got tests running on Windows
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moneromooo
Looking at it it's a bit weird it cals pi rather than, say, CN, as a "let's use up CPU" function :)
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iDunk
IIRC, functional_tests fail on other stuff on Windows, but I'll try.
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moneromooo
I've got those two on fedora. Phew.
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selsta
moneromooo: I think you can close 7272 as it was replaced by 7308 if I understand this correctly
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moneromooo
Yes, I think it did. I'll close.
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selsta
.merge+ 7520 7538 7542 7549
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