02:05:43 <Mmmmmmmmmm> What's a good use-case of unlock_time? If I want to give my child an inheritance? =D
02:15:36 <hyc> if you're afraid you don't have the self-discipline to hodl enough
02:16:15 <Mmmmmmmmmm> Hahah, better make sure you don't accidentally add an extra zero at the end of the unlock_time
02:16:23 <Mmmmmmmmmm> Or maybe that would be beneficial if you're looking to hodl
02:23:46 <hyc> ... I thought the point of using frameworks like QT was that they were supposed to hide portability issues. not cause them.
02:24:10 <hyc> the GUI has been a continuous stream of failures
02:26:24 <selsta> hyc: contributors welcome
02:26:38 <selsta> I have 1 laptop, I can't test various linux distros
02:26:44 <hyc> I work on software that I use. I have no use for a GUI
02:27:36 <hyc> you shouldn't have to test all distros. this is clearly a place where the community can step up.
02:30:41 <selsta> Qt did not cause this issue, some libxcb bug that only shows up on Ubuntu 18.04
02:30:58 <selsta> I even downloaded Ubuntu 16.04 and 20.04 to test
02:32:15 <moneromooo> Statistically, you tested on 18.04.
02:32:25 <selsta> well that is what I thought lol
02:36:28 <hyc> hm... 18.04 is not likely to get a fix backported at this point, it's out of LTS already isn't it?
02:37:33 <selsta> https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pull/3220
02:38:12 <selsta> static libxcb so now I will go through the various versions and fine one that works on Ubuntu 16.04 - 20.04
02:38:41 <selsta> 1.12 crashes on Ubuntu 20.04, 1.14 has a deadlock on Ubuntu 18.04... fun
02:51:03 <selsta> 1.13 starts on Ubuntu 18.04
02:51:27 <selsta> can’t wait to find out if it has issues on 16.04 or 20.04
08:14:08 <dEBRUYNE> hyc: Kind of discouraging to put out those statements
08:14:13 <dEBRUYNE> Numerous people are working hard to improve it
10:51:51 <ErCiccione[irc]> and i cannot agree about the fact that the GUI is a continuous stream of failures. During the last year has improved by a lot from all points of view. More changes will inevitably bring more bugs, but overall GUI devs have done a great job lately IMHO
16:01:08 -xmr-pr- pushshift opened issue #6998: Does Monero-GUI attempt to retry failed transactions?
16:01:08 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/6998
16:16:08 -xmr-pr- moneromooo-monero opened pull request #6999: epee: tighten the URL parsing regexp a little
16:16:08 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6999
16:32:37 <fluffypony> latest CLI still broken on some Ubuntu versions
16:32:39 <fluffypony> and it made it worse
16:33:01 <fluffypony> 0.17.1.2 worked with just setting LANG
16:33:08 <fluffypony> 0.17.1.3 needs you to set LC_ALL and LANG
16:33:17 <fluffypony> else it chokes on the locale error
16:33:36 <fluffypony> this regression is so annoying, especially because we had it fixed for ages
16:34:52 <selsta> 0.17.1.2? you sure?
16:35:07 <selsta> we never released v0.17.1.2
16:35:32 <fluffypony> sorry 0.17.1.1
16:36:00 <selsta> weird, don’t think we touched anything in this direction
16:36:08 <fluffypony> I think the regression first reared its head in 0.17.0.0.
16:36:15 <fluffypony> I'll have to check my logs
16:36:21 <fluffypony> (IRC logs I mean)
16:37:19 <fluffypony> oh I stand corrected, first showed up in 0.17.1.0
16:37:22 <fluffypony> 0.17.0.0 was fine
16:38:07 <fluffypony> we had a few people moan about it in #monero
16:38:31 <fluffypony> 2020-10-14 17:59:07.016	E Exception in main! locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
16:38:44 <dEBRUYNE> Think it was .1
16:38:45 <dEBRUYNE> https://monero.stackexchange.com/questions/12432/how-to-fix-exception-in-main-localefacet-s-create-c-locale-name-not-valid/12433#12433
16:38:54 <fluffypony> dEBRUYNE: yes
16:38:58 <dEBRUYNE> xiphon: Would you mind investigating?
16:42:44 <selsta> hyc: can https://github.com/monero-project/monero/commit/4665906ddd5579d5ef6c04d775ecde05b2d871b5 have an effect on what fluffy describes?
16:43:02 <selsta> else there is nothing in v0.17.0.0...v0.17.1.0 diff that seems related
16:53:30 <hyc> selsta: I don't believe so, that change affected only the definition of the lgamma function and nothing else
16:54:29 <hyc> what specifically is broken, that setting LOCALE fixes?
16:54:35 <hyc> I missed the original problem description
17:08:31 <Mmmmmmmmmm> Do people still use make_uri? Subaddresses should have killed this, right?
17:11:29 <asymptotically> Mmmmmmmmmm: you can make a uri that contains a subaddress
17:11:50 <asymptotically> it's just adding some extra data like a description and amount to a wallet address
17:26:27 <fluffypony> hyc: if you don't explicitly set LANG and LC_ALL then it dies on startup
17:26:28 <fluffypony> 2020-10-14 17:59:07.016    E Exception in main! locale::facet::_S_create_c_locale name not valid
17:28:06 <hyc> what version of ubuntu is that?
17:29:49 <fluffypony> 16.04.7 LTS
17:30:22 <hyc> strange considering that we use 16.04 as our build base
17:30:42 <kayront> fluffypony: good time to pm?
17:30:48 <kayront> (sorry, OT)
17:30:57 <fluffypony> sure
17:31:02 <fluffypony> hyc: ikr
17:31:10 <hyc> hm, my mistake, we're on 18.04
17:31:38 <hyc> ubuntu bionic
17:37:07 <hyc> fluffypony: can you paste strace output from startup?
17:54:57 <fluffypony> sure, I'll upload now
17:55:23 <fluffypony> hyc: https://paste.debian.net/1170607/
17:59:50 <hyc> that's weird, line 215
17:59:56 <hyc> it should be C_UTF-8.
18:05:05 <hyc> sounds like you have a weird system default locale
18:05:07 <iDunk> I have C.UTF-8 here.
18:05:32 <hyc> oh yes, C.UTF-8, not underscore
18:06:07 <hyc> or maybe something in your bitmonero.conf has tweaked it, tho I don't see what possibly could
18:07:56 <hyc> also on my own startup I don't even see those locale calls happening
18:08:02 <hyc> (ubuntu 18)
18:10:52 <fluffypony> this is starting up in a different user account
18:11:07 <fluffypony> so no .conf
18:16:04 <TheCharlatan> I only get the error on my server 18.04, but not on my desktop 18.04.
18:17:07 <moneromooo> Do you have libunwind on that one ? So we can see what throws it from where ?
18:18:24 <hyc> still seems weird because C should already be the default locale
18:43:27 <hyc> in other news - google is locking down execute permissions in android https://twitter.com/w8emv/status/1325556483354931201
18:43:53 <hyc> which will basically kill the ability to run monero CLI from an android terminal shell, unless it's explicitly packaged as an APK
18:44:26 <hyc> so annoying. is this really the only way to slow down the spread of malware?
18:44:53 <hyc> are they so unable to plug the holes that allow malware to land on the system in the first place?
18:48:44 <selsta> monero-gui has an .apk now
18:48:53 <selsta> but yea, not going to help with daemon
19:00:50 <viperperidot[m]> <selsta "monero-gui has an .apk now"> Really it does?
19:00:52 <viperperidot[m]> Where can I find that?
19:01:53 <selsta> It is experimental so we don’t publish it on the website yet. Do you have a Github account?
19:02:49 <selsta> You can download it from here once the build is finished, should take 1 hour more hour: https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/runs/1375710540
19:09:04 <viperperidot[m]> Thanks ill check it out
19:09:15 <viperperidot[m]> I didn't even know the monero GUI team was working on a mobile version
19:13:56 <selsta> viperperidot[m]: it is the desktop GUI ported to android, no mobile specific design
19:15:21 <viperperidot[m]> Ok well I am interested to see how it works
20:01:08 -xmr-pr- mj-xmr opened pull request #7000: Reduce compilation time of epee/portable_storage.h
20:01:08 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/7000
20:02:55 <selsta> viperperidot[m]: android apk can now be downloaded
21:14:57 <xiphon> dEBRUYNE: "xiphon: Would you mind investigating?" -> will have a look, working on the GUI build atm though
21:28:31 <dEBRUYNE> All right
22:35:35 <kayabaNerve> As an update to that Python Wallet/WatchWallet library I posted a couple days ago, I did update it to Monero v13 (latest) and did some generic linting/cleanup work and so on. Now supports CLSAG :)
23:22:38 <Mmmmmmmmmm> Hi, I wrote a Daemon and Wallet client to interface with Monero's JSON-RPC API in C#, as I see we don't have one in the Monero Ecosystem. Is anyone in here able to review my code before I complete the README documentation and make it into a Nuget Package? https://github.com/Agorist-Action/csharp-monero-rpc-client. I've tested 90% of the commands
23:22:39 <Mmmmmmmmmm> myself without issue.
23:23:55 <Mmmmmmmmmm> That link doesn't work because there is a sneaky period right after the link. Here: https://github.com/Agorist-Action/csharp-monero-rpc-client
23:35:06 <binaryFate> GUI v0.17.1.4 is out on website. Big thanks to selsta for rebuilding it quickly today