01:17:43 <xiphon> Huh. Yep. Checked the code. Unfortunately it selects random out peer
01:21:10 <selsta> So the only question remaining is do nodes that are not synced immediately drop all transactions?
01:21:20 <xiphon> sure, they do
01:22:32 <xiphon> https://github.com/xiphon/monero/blob/4ff2074c74bcd3a7132e79d7297f7b401f951b64/src/cryptonote_protocol/cryptonote_protocol_handler.inl#L934
02:53:41 <selsta> vtnerd: please take a look at https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6875/
03:01:08 -xmr-pr- xiphon opened pull request #6875: Dandelion++: skip desynced peers in stem phase (public networks)
03:01:08 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6875
06:24:00 <Kronovestan> Are blocks 20 mins now instead of 2 mins?
08:04:19 <Inge-> Lolwut?
08:04:32 <Inge-> it happens
09:46:08 -xmr-pr- gillkaurav opened issue #6876: Monero
09:46:08 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/issues/6876
11:18:18 <binaryFate> nice catch xiphon. I've seen quite a lot of people reporting delays before it is visible to receiver (several minutes) clearly indicating initial broadcast failing. Hopefully that was mostly due to that.
12:03:13 <xiphon> yeah, noticed the delays a while back, will see how it goes
14:22:55 <Mmmmmmmmmmm> What's your development environment look like when you're working on Monero? There isn't an MSVC .sln file. What IDE are you using? Thanks
14:23:59 <asy> Mmmmmmmmmmm: you don't need an ide :) just cmake and make. if you really want one, clion works well, but it uses lots of memory on big projects like monero
14:24:00 <sech1> cmake
14:24:24 <sech1> it can in theory create MSVC solution too, but I haven't tried it
14:25:09 <sech1> and it probably won't compile
14:25:53 <asy> yeah i think he discovered last time it doesn't build with msvc. i think you can get visual studio to use clang though
14:26:37 <moneromooo> So MSVC becomes just a spyware layer over CLANG ?
14:26:54 <moneromooo> Given Windows can now run ubuntu, it's just a spyware layer over linux.
14:27:20 <moneromooo> Makes you wonder why they still manage to peddle that.
14:28:07 <asy> but I love spyware! https://yro.slashdot.org/story/16/06/10/1350245/visual-studio-2015-c-compiler-secretly-inserts-telemetry-code-into-binaries
14:28:29 <moneromooo> Must be why people love bitcoin.
14:28:40 <moneromooo> PLEASE SEE ALL MY TXES I FEEL SO LONELY
14:28:53 <moneromooo> Oops, that's -dev. /me slithers away
14:33:21 <Mmmmmmmmmmm> It wont with MSVC, you're right. But I mean, but when I'm working on projects at work I work with MSVC and .sln/vcxproj files. I have everything in my IDE, and I can easily work on various .h or .cpp files (https://i.imgur.com/0Jjfu5z.png). What's the workflow for working on Monero? Do people open the individual cpp or .h file they want to change
14:33:22 <Mmmmmmmmmmm> on their branch, make the change, write some tests, run the tests, then rebuild the application before submitting a MR?
14:36:52 <moneromooo> As opposed to... what (modulo tests) ?
14:37:15 <moneromooo> typically changes will involve multiple files, but... yes I guess ?
14:38:29 <Mmmmmmmmmmm> Ok, thanks for confirming.
18:21:03 <Mmmmmmmmmmm> Is there any plan to move to C++17?
18:21:45 <sech1> There are some parts written in plain C even.
18:22:44 <sech1> moving for the sake of moving is not a good idea. There must be clear benefits from this
18:28:12 <Mmmmmmmmmmm> (y)
18:50:25 <selsta> ping TheCharlatan do you have time to take a look at https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6862 ?
18:50:37 <selsta> we will do a point release soon most likely
18:51:16 <ErCiccione[m> Reminder that as for every year , few days ago a new haktoberfest started. It's a good way to attract contributor and gives the possibility to win a t shirt or plant a tree. This year repositories have to opt in. To opt in is enough to put "hacktoberfest" to the topics of the monero repositories
18:52:00 <ErCiccione[m> I would put it on monero-site and monero-gui, but also monero.
18:52:10 <ErCiccione[m> https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com
18:52:11 <selsta> ErCiccione[m: hacktoberfest was a shitshow this year sadly, lots of spam contributions on other repository
18:52:58 <hyc> yeah, it's amazing what garbage people will spew to get a t-shirt
18:53:06 <ErCiccione[m> yeah, i haven't participated in the last couple of year. The new opt-in rule was just added to avoid spam
18:53:42 <selsta> https://joel.net/how-one-guy-ruined-hacktoberfest2020-drama
18:53:45 <ErCiccione[m> the updated rules: https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com/hacktoberfest-update
18:55:58 <TheCharlatan> selsta will have it tested later today.
18:56:05 <selsta> thank you
18:56:51 <ErCiccione[m> Wow. I didn't know such mess happened. Making it opt in will help, hopefully
19:25:49 <Kronovestan> selsta, one thing I noticed is on the monero post about the new upgrade it doesn't say what block it will happen on. Had to go dig and find it in the code.
19:26:15 <selsta> monero post?
19:26:49 <selsta> Do you mean release notes?
19:49:51 <Kronovestan> yes
19:50:18 <Kronovestan> https://web.getmonero.org/2020/08/18/network-upgrade-october-2020.html
19:50:22 <Kronovestan> selsta, that link
19:51:40 <selsta> Kronovestan: not sure if the height was set at this point
23:53:46 <selsta> TheCharlatan: please also approve branch PR