01:15:24 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> What is the following?
01:15:25 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> -- Backtrace_LIBRARY:
01:17:02 <moneromooo> I think it can only be libunwind. Maybe boost's, not sure if that ever got in.
01:18:05 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> The following? "C:\msys64\mingw64\include\boost\winapi\stack_backtrace.hpp"
01:19:21 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> -- looking for liblzma
01:20:19 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> The documentation says Libunwind is optional
01:20:26 <moneromooo> Ah, I'm wrong. It's libbacktrace from libc.
01:21:34 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Where can I find it?
01:21:59 <moneromooo> glibc probably.
01:25:26 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> This? git://sourceware.org/git/glibc.git
01:29:10 <moneromooo> Probably.
01:31:23 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> LOL Am I doing myself a disservice by building on Windows? I'm just following the instructions on the Repo but it seems like there are a lot of missing pieces that I'm trying to put together
01:32:37 <selsta> it should not be that complicated on windows
01:33:02 <selsta> install following dependencies: mingw-w64-x86_64-toolchain make mingw-w64-x86_64-cmake mingw-w64-x86_64-boost mingw-w64-x86_64-openssl mingw-w64-x86_64-zeromq mingw-w64-x86_64-libsodium mingw-w64-x86_64-hidapi mingw-w64-x86_64-protobuf-c mingw-w64-x86_64-libusb git
01:33:17 <selsta> git clone --recursive https://github.com/monero-project/monero/
01:33:23 <selsta> make release-static-win64
01:34:12 <selsta> we run these steps on every commit and it builds fine, can you post logs on what exactly fails?
01:37:03 <moneromooo> You don't *need* this fwiw. It's optional because it's useful to know whether exceptions were raised when there's a bug report.
01:37:18 <moneromooo> Or at least, there were a few times in hte past where I wished I had that information.
01:37:31 <moneromooo> That's all it does.
01:45:52 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> $ make release-static-win64
01:45:52 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> CMAKE_TOOLCHAIN_FILE=../../../../cmake/64-bit-toolchain.cmake -D MSYS2_FOLDER= ../../../.. && /usr/bin/make
01:47:37 <selsta> Mmmmmmmmmmmmm: please post the whole log to paste.debian.net
01:48:24 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> https://paste.debian.net/1166443/
01:49:43 <selsta> Did you start the mingw64 console?
01:49:55 <selsta> also did you install the mingw-w64-x86_64-zeromq dependency?
01:51:24 <selsta> the command you entered does not look like explained in the readme
01:51:32 <selsta> are you using msys2 mingw64?
01:54:10 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> https://paste.debian.net/1166446/
01:55:27 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> My shell is Z@MyComp MINGW64 ~/Documents/MoneroRepo/monero (master)
01:56:29 <selsta> did you install openssl with pacman?
01:57:22 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> I coped and pasted this: pacman -S mingw-w64-x86_64-toolchain make mingw-w64-x86_64-cmake mingw-w64-x86_64-boost mingw-w64-x86_64-openssl mingw-w64-x86_64-zeromq mingw-w64-x86_64-libsodium mingw-w64-x86_64-hidapi
01:57:25 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> It all went smoothly
01:58:07 <selsta> your msys2 location is c:/msys2 ?
01:59:18 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> I don't know what msys2 is I have C:\msys64\mingw64
01:59:27 <selsta> okay
01:59:57 <selsta> I’m confused why your repo is inside documents
02:00:27 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> I just picked a random location, should it be in C:\msys64?
02:00:38 <selsta> can you try to open the mingw64 console and then type git clone --recursive https://github.com/monero-project/monero/
02:00:41 <selsta> without changing path
02:01:45 <selsta> by default it should end up in C:\msys64\mingw64\home\monero-gui or so if I remember correctly
02:03:12 <selsta> (close and reopen the mingw64 console)
02:03:21 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> I have it as such:
02:03:27 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Z@MyComp MINGW64 /c/msys64/monero (master)
02:03:52 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Oh shoot I need to go into mingw64 before cloning. Right?
02:04:15 <selsta> yes
02:04:29 <selsta> you need the mingw64 console
02:08:43 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> When you say I need the console, Im not sure what you mean. This is what Im looking at before I cloned
02:08:44 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> https://imgur.com/a/enazTrV
02:10:16 <selsta> this program https://www.msys2.org/docs/mintty.png
02:13:48 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> https://imgur.com/a/bAl7Jex
02:14:37 <selsta> picture does not load for me
02:14:56 <selsta> can you direct link?
02:15:13 <moneromooo> imgur started wanting javascript even for direct links a few weeks ago.
02:15:39 <selsta> yea they sometimes redirect you from the direct link version to the non direct link one
02:15:44 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> https://i.imgur.com/wopp2Ve.png
02:15:45 <selsta> also this one does not even load with JS for me
02:16:40 <selsta> Mmmmmmmmmmmmm: can you enter just "cd" and enter
02:16:47 <selsta> and then the output of "pwd"
02:18:25 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> $ pwd
02:19:23 <selsta> that’s the output of pwd?
02:19:48 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> That is ya
02:20:10 <selsta> can you make a screenshot again? does not sound right
02:21:07 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Sorry, you said "cd and enter, then pwd"
02:21:16 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> ./c/Users/Z
02:23:23 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Without the dot
02:23:39 <selsta> that’s the part that is confusing me, why is your home directory your real windows home directory and not the ming64 one
02:24:04 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Does it have to do with me using Git Bash?
02:24:17 <selsta> yes :S
02:24:28 <selsta> you need to use mingw64 program
02:25:19 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Z@MyComp MINGW64 ~
02:25:53 <selsta> okay, now follow the steps from the readme
02:27:08 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> So from /home/Z start the pacman stuff right?
02:27:20 <selsta> yes
02:27:26 <selsta> and then git clone and then make
02:48:23 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Works great now, can I tip you Monero?
02:48:31 <Mmmmmmmmmmmmm> Post an address
02:57:09 <selsta> good to hear that it’s working now, see PM regarding address
09:31:35 <selsta> Do we plan to add I2P / Tor seed nodes? vtnerd?
10:55:52 <binaryFate> I think we should have TOR/I2P seeds. There are discussions ongoing to see who can do that
11:08:53 <selsta> I currently host an I2P monero node, could add mine as seed node
14:38:15 <vtnerd> selsta : yes I am talking to people who currently run IP seed nodes first
14:47:37 <moneromooo> The instructions don't say how to create the onion address, or where to see it if running tor with the hidden service config generates it.
14:48:17 <moneromooo> It could be because it's something unrelated (ie, go see how whatever other software does it?)
15:01:47 <vtnerd> if you mean the monero documentation on tor, yeah I assumed pre-knowledge (or obtained elsewhere, etc)
15:02:59 <vtnerd> some utility to probe if the address is up could be useful I suppose, I was typically just running another monerod instance and checking connection list
15:06:48 <moneromooo> I found it in tor docs, looks like it's auto generated.
15:45:58 <moneromooo> Does anyone know of a tor monero node that's online now, so I can check which side of tor my problem is ?
15:48:01 <moneromooo> (for p2p, not RPC)
15:50:55 <binaryFate> moneromooo: https://community.xmr.to/nodes.html bottom of page
15:51:05 <moneromooo> ty
15:51:07 <binaryFate> afaik it's up, albeit not 100% sure
15:53:02 <moneromooo> Same connection refused error I get, so must be my client. I tried 18080 and 18083.
15:54:20 <moneromooo> 18081 gets me 404 though, so I can reach it. Are you sure it listens to P2P ?
16:00:12 <moneromooo> nvm, all working now. Thanks.
16:00:30 <moneromooo> (my tor node, not yours, I suspect yours doens't listen to P2P)
16:08:00 <moneromooo> vtnerd: how should I add a hidden service to the seeds list ? I added the .onion address, but monerod fails to resolve it at startup.
16:08:15 <moneromooo> I'm not running with torsocks, I don't think I'm supposed to here.
16:08:45 <moneromooo> --add-exclusive-node xxx.onion works (without torsocks)
16:45:13 <moneromooo> Great. Now tor_address has no operator less like ipv4_network_address.
16:53:01 <moneromooo> OK, I made it work. It now connects to the tor seed, but it knows of no tor peer so it sends back nothing. We need more tor nodes :)
16:53:55 <selsta> Can I run I2P and Tor node on same machine? I guess yes?
16:55:05 <moneromooo> I'd guess so too.
16:58:47 <kinghat[m]> i have a vps i can set a node up on but last time ppl were playing around with it there were "issues" that i dont remember so i lost interest. would have to be a no-chain node, though.
16:59:20 <moneromooo> I think it can be, for a tor seed.
17:00:25 <moneromooo> Hmm. The bit I was missing was in the Monero doc, I'd just managed to read over it. Wheee. Go me.
17:01:08 -xmr-pr- moneromooo-monero opened pull request #6874: make Monero understand Tor seeds, and add one
17:01:08 -xmr-pr- > https://github.com/monero-project/monero/pull/6874
18:58:27 <gingeropolous> what was the bit moneromooo, or which doc? the hidden services doc?
19:00:19 <moneromooo> How to create the address for --anonymous-inbound.
19:00:40 <moneromooo> It is created automatically when running tor, and is written to /var/...hostname.
22:09:52 <gingeropolous> does i2p / tor have seed nodes, and if so, is there a way to "hop on" to their seed nodes, such that a monero network use could get monero nodes from a standard i2p seed node?
22:11:07 <gingeropolous> cause the fun part of running a monero node with i2p or whatever is you end up just giving up your i2p benefits, right? mebbe im missing something
22:17:39 <selsta> why are you giving up your i2p benefits?
23:46:34 <xiphon> moneromooo: vtnerd: and others interested : does our dandelion++ implementation chooses a random peer to broadcast a tx to?
23:46:55 <xiphon> given that a node will immediately ignore incoming tx if it is syncing ...
23:48:58 <xiphon> it doesn't make a sense to broadcast a tx to a peer having "not the top blockchain height"
23:49:31 <xiphon> sorry, i didn't inspect the related code closely
23:49:39 <xiphon> do we handle this correctly?
23:53:11 <moneromooo> AFAIK (froim what I read here before) it's a random (or two ?) peer, which changes every random amount of time.