ARM64 NEON is usually available, but even ARM is phasing that out in favor of SVE2

fwiw, master+testnet forkheight patch passes make test

took about 2 hours for test to run

5885 seconds in core_tests

Takes ~10 minutes here with my patch to replace PoW with keccak ^_^

ETC already beat us to it

Oh hey, people talking about ARM yay

Got my PinePhone, unfortunately the bits in arch/community involve x86, not ARMv8

If I want a Monero CLI binary for PinePhone I need to download repo onto phone and run make release-static-linux-armv8, right?

CPU for reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A53

did you try binaries on getmonero.org?

Oh wow, hur. Should have looked there first

Will try the Linux ARMv8 binary there. Thanks!

Follow up, is there a way to launch monerod to show current block sync state?

./monerod status

It's working! Will upload video shortly!

FWIW, here's daemon starting up and running on PinePhone. Probably not super exciting for some, but being able to actually run a mobile wallet w/o Google or other malicious apps snooping on clipboard/private key is super exciting to me: twitter.com/kamenrannaa/status/1301337485121933312

Major props to whoever maintains the ARMv8 bin!

xmrscott[m]: what is the benefit to linux phone vs an android (minus google) phone like lineage or graphene?

To me, the main thing is precisely that, no worry of Google snooping anywhere on the HW/SW stacks

If you're referring to the phone itself rather than the notion of running Monero on a Linux phone, HW kill switches, easily replaceable parts, similar ecosystem to my PC which also runs Arch + Plasma

Also worth noting it is crazy simple to put whatever OS you want on it with Etcher. Maybe the ecosystem has changed in the last 4 years, but I remember it being quite painful to flash an Android tablet with CyanogenMod. It takes all of maybe 5 min to flash a 128gb sd, boot the Linux phone, and start dl'ing updates via the stock pkg manager

xmrscott[m]: yes the phone looks really great from those respects, but correct me if i am worng, but i think lineage and graphene are completly devoid of google anywhere in the stack.

i guess the seeming great benefit IMO would be being able to use .apk's and most of the software for mobile these days is already built for android? but perhaps there are a ton of apis that just don't exist on these other android oses, meaning an app devleoper would need to re-build their apps substantially anyway?

Probably best to take this conversation to -community

ack

fyi I did most of the ARM support

hah. couldn't remember my testnet wallet's password because it has none

last time I used it was a year ago, before the RandomX hardfork

and I now have 20% of testnet hashrate

testnet fork in 3 hours, is my node correct?

Sounds plausible.

should we ask fluffy to update testnet seed nodes?

Oh need to update mine!

Just build from master?

Or some branch?

master + 6794

I'll kick mine off

.merges

.merge+ 6794

Added

We should probably update this with whats done when people complete tasks: monero-project/meta #500

I've updated what I know for sure, but didn't want to arbitrarily mark things off

Failed to get top block hash to check for new block's parent: MDB_NOTFOUND: No matching key/data pair found

I get this when importing testnet blockchain, am I doing anything wrong or is my current testnet db corrupted?

okay, deleting my current testnet db solved it

Does this suggest any issues that could arise in mainnet deployment?

doubt it, I had a super old testnet db on my system, no idea what was up with that

And testnet has gone through some quite wild times :)

I wonder whether it will split, with only few people on the new version, and the seed nodes on the old version

Would be splendid if gingeropolous has time to update the daemon for testnet.xmrchain.net, would be super-useful to "see something"

one, so far

and for mysterious reasons a quite badly connected one, despite running for months ...

Getting this stacktrace with my testnet node: paste.centos.org/view/4ccdb41f

restarted and got the same thing

Its still running, however.

`Monero 'Nitrogen Nebula' (v0.16.0.0-9b44174ef)`

Can you paste that on a site that doesn't have wonky ssl (assuming it's not exit nodes ganging up on it) ?

Is this beter?

Ah thanks selsta

debian paste seems to be a good choice for everyone

I’ll use that in the future 🙂

I still think it'd be interesting to run an encrypted pastebin

Not sure about the liability of this, if any

that's a cool site

Looks similar to 0bin

Yes, thakns.

> next fork in 10 blocks

Hopefully, with only a handful of daemons :)

pins and needles...

rbrunner, selsta , xmrchain.net should be on proper daemon

matt daemon

Maett Daemon

Really nice, thanks

.merges

Height: 1543937/1543937 (100.0%) on testnet, not mining, net hash 3.43 kH/s, v12 (next fork in 2 blocks), 6(out)+0(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 3m 22s

must be on right daemon

i made it selsta ! thanks for the copypasta

ima start mining on xmrchain.net testnet whynot. whats the address to the testnet faucet?

9vmn8Vyxh6JEVmPr4qTcj3ND3FywDpMXH2fVLLEARyKCJTc3jWjxeWcbRNcaa57Bj36cARBSfWnfS89oFVKBBvGTAegdRxG

xmr.to faucet

danke

lol ... my "in" connections dropped from 50 to 4 with the fork happening

hmm my node has 0(out)+6(in)

i have 2 out 0 in

oh i have a priority node

I tried a transaction, and after about 1 minute it showed up in the explorer

Hah, first!

I will be mentioned in the history books

im trying to get my testnet seed node updated as well

rbrunner: you have done much to advance humanity

Thanks, thanks

Better issue a press release about how CLSAG is Advancing Humanity With Science (tm)

I'm told this is how these things are done

it has ZK and DAGs right?

both

gingeropolous is technically correct: the best kind of correct

so is new tx type "4" ?

Would make it easier for people to follow if luigi1111 or snipa could merge 6794 as soon as possible into master

it is merged

Ah, ok, sorry to nag then

naggers...

rbrunner, i think you sent an old style maybe? don't see any dize difference

Breaking: sizeof(CLSAG) == sizeof(MLSAG)

:(

I could make a post with instructions I guess

Well, I just let the wallet do its thing ...

(to participate in testnet)

right, well, the testnet is in that in-the-middle period. I dunno what the wallet is supposed to do or how it knows when to use what format

How to spot the new format anyway? Type 5?

this right? Monero 'Nitrogen Nebula' (v0.16.0.0-9fb2243db)

No, I mean how to see that in the block explorer, with a single tx displayed

i dunno. i just compared your transaction to one that was made about 10 days ago. if u click back enough in the explorer theres... ah lemme do it

so i just compared that one to the one u made and it looked the same, at least regarding all the stats posted

That be MLSAG-sized

but the explorer may just be lying to me

Because maybe it does not know the new structures?

i haven't followed mwos repo to see if onion-explorer is modded

hmm my node apparently didn't apply the PR properly

Re-building, as I got forked off

fluffypony: please update your testnet seed node to master (if you are running one)

I'll check

I displayed my tx in the daemon, and I got a binary length of 2593 bytes.

A 2-2 txn should be closer to 1.9 kB IIRC

2-2 MLSAG is ~2.54 kB

Freshly built master: `Height: 2178760/2178760 (100.0%) on mainnet, not mining, net hash 1.29 GH/s, v12, 7(out)+8(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 0m 58s`

oh

Maybe moneromooo knows what my wallet *should* produce right now, and what might prevent it from doing "the right thing"

Nvm I'm dumb, forgot the testnet flag

`Height: 1543945/1543945 (100.0%) on testnet, not mining, net hash 3.47 kH/s, v13 (next fork in 1.0 days), 1(out)+1(in) connections, uptime 0d 0h 0m 22s` 🙂

someone make a new tx :)

You mean in the new format? It is smaller, with only 1 input

oh there we go

that’s mine and not sure if that is correct

1.7246 kB vs 1.7334 kB on mainnet

Anyone want to send me some tXMR? `9tRQikyQRHf3vCoDFfU2KvPQnFTi95bzyK2Jcx5bN2XAFvVoyg73dgK1Qi3ppdNUDjZypS45Zn5j17ky8rGUMW6t1NhqbR9`

im compiling the wallet

In the pool, sethsimmons, the one ending on 1c

ty

New stacktrace when stopping/starting mining: paste.debian.net/1162495

was the previous stacktrace also from mining?

no

Previous was just when the node started

Just started mining now

Does CLSAG not activate until v14?

No idea, where is our lead dev when we need them. It's hardfork, and moneromooo is not around. Ts ts ts :)

59 blocks to unlock

My understanding is that we should already produce CLSAG transactions, but any old ones, e.g. in the pool, would still get processed for a grace period of 1 day. Might be wrong, however

well 2 hrs before i can send yah anything

CLSAG starts at v13, enforced at v14.

If you mined, yes

xmr.to faucet errored out

they did not update their node

moneromooo: anyway to confirm that a tx is a clsag tx?

print_tx TXID

If CLSAG, it... err

binaryFate: testnet nodes need to be updated for the CLSAG fork that just happened 🙂

It should have rct type 5

okay, mine has 4

Maybe +json to see something?

Guess wallet still defaults to 4

Ah, possibly.

Noooo ... so I was not first person on Earth to make a CLSAG transaction on a Monero network. I am devastated.

The JSON of my transaction indeed says type 4 under "rct_signatures"

As displayed in the daemon

hmmmmm

is there a ppa for boost dev for Xenial?

Can you translate that to English?

does that work? launchpad.net/~mhier/+archive/ubuntu/libboost-latest

LOL rbrunner

selsta: that's runtime only, not dev

Eh, noob here, know neither "ppa" nor "Xenial" :)

A, sort of a package

I hope this is the right channel to ask this question - I'm just getting started with the Monero RPC Wallet API and am using this as a reference getmonero.org/resources/developer-guides/wallet-rpc.html#set_daemon - my question is simple where a parameter is optional but does not specify a default value can I just send an empty string for instance (if the type is listed as a string in the docs)?

fluffypony: this is roughly what I've used in the past: paste.debian.net/1162499

I'm not aware of a proper PPA for the latest/recent dev

tks

should be able to replace the version numbers and be good after that IIRC

I'm just in the middle of syncing a monerod node on my local machine so I can do some testing of my own code but until then I'm a bit lost

you might want to set prefix to /usr/local so that it doesn't upset your package manager - not sure how to do that with b2 though

tks sethsimmons that worked perfectly

Nice :D

Nizumzen: Why would you want to send an empty string?

Typically empty means default for optional stuff. You can also just omit it.

dEBRUYNE: sorry I'm quite new to this - I have my JavaScript set up with default values for the parameters that specify what the default was but I was just a bit confused as to why some of the optional parameters had a default value and some didn't - I guess I am supposed to omit them completely from the POST request if they are optional, have no default value and the user has not specified a valid value

?

is that correct or am I totally wrong?

If you don't send a field, and it's optional, it'll have some default value.

ok I'll leave those out then completely - thanks for your help all

So, rebuilt, testnet chain synced, and... it appears to make CLSAG txes.

This is my work branch though, as I can't run master without resyncing the whole chain.

It might be waiting for 10 blocks after the fork though.

Can whoever tried and got MLSAG try again after mining 10 blocks ? :) --fixed-difficulty 1 is great here.

(and --offline)

1951 bytes. Lovely ^_^

:D

That looks right!

Not sure what you mean with "after mining 10 blocks". You mean on an own, private chain, not on the testnet chain?

Whichever.

If others mined the 10 blocks, it also works.

testnet forked ~60 blocks ago

But aren't we now already some dozens of blocks after the fork?

About 60 ^

I keep getting `2020-09-03 19:25:16.419 E Unable to send transaction(s) via Dandelion++ stem` but that’s probably because I have `0(out)+7(in) connections ?

So what's the meaning of 10 blocks? I feel stupid.

I tested sending a tx

10 blocks mean... the chain height be 10 more than the fork height. Plus or minus 1.

That's what the wallet uses to start using CLSAG.

yep, type 5 now

Good :D

Alright, seems we just did not wait long enough, maybe our test transactions missed by a single block

Is testnet.xmrchain.com still running correctly? It seems 1 block behind, and not showing 2 tx in the pool

gingeropolous: ^ seems 2 blocks behind

I just got b9df97f4ec023a8b2ba2160bf0dcf029d71d8b8eea571746e48d24b4db6d96f1 mined for me

With type 5

lol looks like testnet.xmrchain.net broke

it skipped 2 blocks

The 10 block delay is to avoid an unlikely case of a tx sent right after the fork (so using CLSAG) becoming invalid if somehow a reorg brings the chain back to pre-fork. It's really unlikely to happen in practice though I suppose.

Makes sense.

Even so, it'd become valid again soon, since it did not use outputs younger than 10 blocks.

moneromooo: Any idea about the no outgoing connection thing? Could it be that all other peers have me as an outgoing connection so I can’t find any?

So I suppose it's a bit of a pointless delay now.

Never saw a block explorer skip blocks, that's funny

Very few nodes running current master ?

Yes

CLSG txes so small the exploirer can't see them!

lol

Lol

selsta, did your tx get mined? If yes, which block? I am in 12

in 1544011

Ah, you beat me then :)

Maybe it just dies on decoding CLSAG txes.

Yes, my thought as well right now

And does not show them if in pool

perfect privacy!

Move over Phil Zimmerman...

Strange that community.xmr.to/explorer/testnet shows "old" testnet stuck since about 1 hour ago. I would have expected the numerous not-yet-updated testnet daemons to continue building their chain happily

They're probably not mining.

Yeah, interestingly it seems "our" hashrate did not sink

see monero.stackexchange.com/a/7981

only 70 blocks passed so it will take a while until accurate hashrate shows up

bc_dyn_stats N shows the average block time in the last N blocks.

Of course, law of small numbers applies.

Right, I forgot

82 avg sec/block

Interesting command

someone have an address I can dust 🙂

so a 1-2 CLSAG tx is 81% the size of MLSAG, does that look correct?

sethsimmons: A1aNRBZ4HRHA9zodJDzNLuHh3cfLQmCAAJ2NFWLLiCag7EuYUdd36ncdxgK234LPJmcN8Sk2vzSozAMLuf2iE9kE2sMkQcR

Are these types of warnings in GUI as well?

`Warning: Some input keys being spent are from blocks that are temporally very close, which can break the anonymity of ring signatures. Make sure this is intentional!`

I've never seen that before!

no

The "temporally very close" is probably not a bad thing now. It used to be due to split txes, but this does not happen anymore post rct.

How can I verify the size of my TX without an explorer?

print_tx isn't an option in monero-wallet-cli

print_tx TXID +hex

wc -c

Paste the hex

^D

Divide by 2.

[wallet 9tRQik]: print_tx c55e0b7158731f52733166914304d034bd3d762a089f65b76fbbc364713fc6f3

Error: Unknown command 'print_tx', try 'help'

inside daemon

Is that only an RPC command?

Ahhhh

ty

Weird that you cant do it inside the wallet

if you're running monerod headless, you can run rpc commands with e.g. `monerod print_tx ...`

Man, I *so* hate this rx_slow_hash code. It's confusing as heck.

.merges

Merge queue empty

.merge+ 6111

...

btw I still have this issue with 6111

though it seems to only happen on my machine

Did it not get fixed by allowing more time for the reorg ?

I did not try anything yet, you said you will try to reproduce first. I can try increasing line 154?

156*

I reproduced one of them from time to time IIRC, fixed by bumping the alloted time.

.merge- 6111

Removed

Meh, don't care enough.

ok will try

For trezor support: monero-project/monero #6798

too late, bot

.merge+ 6111

(can’t reproduce anymore)

Added

Good. My recollection was it got fixed by longer timeots.

moneromooo: do you want 6745 included in the next HF?

I was hoping for more review first.

Especially for the question in the first chunk of comments.