04:10:25 <gingeropolous> is there a signing-only monero software app?
04:11:04 <gingeropolous> once again im pondering the whole digital identity thing and the fact that I think i did the pgp thing with the stuff where you get the key, like back in the day
04:11:19 <gingeropolous> but.... i definitely know where my monero wallet is... and its effectively the same thing
04:11:41 <gingeropolous> problem is, of course, i don't wanna go boot up my wallet to go sign documents or whatever it is that needs signing
04:13:44 <gingeropolous> hrm.. this is prolly literally cutting and pasting from the existing code into some new program
12:13:54 <sethsimmons> Honestly if we could do simple identity services on Monero it would be a nice (and easy to add) feature
12:14:04 <sethsimmons> Since people using Monero have to be familiar with simple KMS anyways
12:14:21 <sethsimmons> I think it’s a great idea if someone can build it, especially a SUPER simple desktop/mobile app
12:22:12 <midipoet> gingeropolous: whats your interest in digital identity if you don't mind me asking?
12:23:39 <midipoet> i have had discussions about identity over in monero-compliance,  but it sort of got shifted away. am still interested in the topic though. i also think there is a definite need for a well built/architected system
12:33:57 <moneromooo> Shen had a paper on this, identity chains, where you can prove things without disclosing others.
13:22:50 <normo> @sethsimmons what exactly do you mean with 'simple identity services on Monero'?
13:24:05 <sethsimmons> Just the ability to handle logins/personas/pseudonyms with the same private key I use for a Monero wallet
13:24:16 <sethsimmons> SSO across sites etc etc
13:24:32 <sethsimmons> Combined with GPG like “proof” of identity
13:25:20 <moneromooo> What's the advantage vs a login/password list file ?
13:25:55 <moneromooo> When I see "SSO", I think "spying" :)
13:26:06 <sethsimmons> :P
13:26:44 <sethsimmons> Mostly to combine identity with something I’ll use anyways (Monero), and to allow for more decentralized auth
13:26:52 <sethsimmons> AFAIK there are also other benefits but I’m not well versed
13:27:08 <sethsimmons> Just seems like an overall cool idea to use existing key pairs for identity
13:34:54 <gingeropolous> midipoet, nothing in particular. But in general, hopefully more people become denizens of the decentralized infrastructure built on the internet. and that requires some form of digital identity, and if monero's gonna be The magic internet money, then, your identity can get the same protections as your finances if the keys can be multi-purpose
13:35:19 <gingeropolous> i mean, could be scope creep for sure.
13:35:53 <midipoet> gingeropolous: i agree. but there is resistance from others, so i have stopped talking about it
13:47:49 <jwinterm> I never really thought about the privacy implications of using a single key pair to sign on to a bunch of different sites/services before
13:48:08 <jwinterm> tbf I don't really consider the privacy implications of almost anything, but I think mooo does bring up a fair point
13:56:16 <midipoet> i think if we all carry a mobile phone, we have failed already
13:56:55 <Inge-> so we need mesh networks and sovereign devices
13:57:15 * midipoet googles "how to make a mobile phone"
13:57:33 <Inge-> well, you have the pinephone and the other one ...
13:57:44 <rdymac> a PinePhone with Locha Mesh?
13:57:46 <Inge-> although they still have proprietary baseband modules at the very least
13:58:10 <jwinterm> pinephone and starbucks wifi
14:24:11 <normo> @sethsimmons Is this something along the lines? https://pypi.org/project/django-cryptolock/ Just curious.
14:30:13 <sethsimmons> Yeah looks similar
15:43:57 <Snipa> .merges
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